Building Automation Knowledge Base

Issue Purchasing a MNL-13RF controller in the UK. Environment Purchasing Sales Micronet I/A series Cause Part number not recognized. Resolution The ordering system does not recognize MNL-13FRx which is shown in a lot of documentation. The required part number is MNL-13RF3, where 3 is the current version number.

Issue Replacement stuffing box/stem seal Environment 100108230 100108220 V321 100108210  Cause When leaking by the gland, a stuffing box replacement may sometimes help. Resolution The DN125 to DN150 of the V321 valve was changed around mid 2007 (the other sizes remained unchanged). With this change the valve stem changed from diameter 18mm to 12mm. Unfortunately it was not thought to to update the data sheet in regards to the gland service kits – the gland service kit was updated by the factory for the new stem dia. but there was no advice as to servicing the old valve. Fortunately the stuffing box from the V222 and V292 valves of DN125 to DN150 also fits the V321 valve, thus gland kit 100108210 should be the correct gland kit to use if you have the old valve (stem diameter of 18 mm). If you have the new V321 model (stem diameter of 12 mm): Replacement/spare stuffing box for V321 DN65-DN100 is part no 100108220 and for DN125-150 it is part no 100108230. The DN125 to DN150 of the V321 valve was changed around mid 2007, just before I started working for Schneider so I had to do some investigation here.   With this change the valve stem changed from dia. 18mm to dia.12mm Unfortunately it was not thought to change the part numbers for the valve, nor to update the data sheet in regards to the gland service kits – the gland service kit was updated by the factory for the new stem dia. but there was no advice as to servicing the old valve. Fortunately the gland kit from the V222 and V292 valves of DN125 to DN150 also fits the V321 valve.  Thus gland kit 1 001 0821 0 should be the correct gland kit to use. The DN125 to DN150 of the V321 valve was changed around mid 2007, just before I started working for Schneider so I had to do some investigation here.   With this change the valve stem changed from dia. 18mm to dia.12mm Unfortunately it was not thought to change the part numbers for the valve, nor to update the data sheet in regards to the gland service kits – the gland service kit was updated by the factory for the new stem dia. but there was no advice as to servicing the old valve. Fortunately the gland kit from the V222 and V292 valves of DN125 to DN150 also fits the V321 valve.  Thus gland kit 1 001 0821 0 should be the correct gland kit to use. With this change the valve stem changed from dia. 18mm to dia.12mm Unfortunately it was not thought to change the part numbers for the valve, nor to update the data sheet in regards to the gland service kits – the gland service kit was updated by the factory for the new stem dia. but there was no advice as to servicing the old valve. Fortunately the gland kit from the V222 and V292 valves of DN125 to DN150 also fits the V321 valve.  Thus gland kit 1 001 0821 0 should be the correct gland kit to use. The DN125 to DN150 of the V321 valve was changed around mid 2007, just before I started working for Schneider so I had to do some investigation here. The DN125 to DN150 of the V321 valve was changed around mid 2007, just before I started working for Schneider so I had to do some investigation here. The DN125 to DN150 of the V321 valve was changed around mid 2007, just before I started working for Schneider so I had to do some investigation here.       Unfortunately it was not thought to change the part numbers for the valve, nor to update the data sheet in regards to the gland service kits – the gland service kit was updated by the factory for the new stem dia. but there was no advice as to servicing the old valve. Unfortunately it was not thought to change the part numbers for the valve, nor to update the data sheet in regards to the gland service kits – the gland service kit was updated by the factory for the new stem dia. but there was no advice as to servicing the old valve.

Issue Request for Schneider Electric version of Controlli MVB52 Environment Controlli MVB52 Cause Some products of Controlli are also available through Schneider Electric.  Resolution Unfortunately, no cross reference to Controlli MVB52 is available in the Schneider Electric portfolio.

Issue When using User Defined PIN in the individual, it can’t take effect. Environment I/NET Cause Large card number should be used if User defined PIN is needed. Resolution User-defined PINs are supported when all of the following requirements are met: The door controller’s firmware is version 2.30 or later. DIP switch 7 at the door controller is ON or the Card Translation option is enabled in the Door Extension editor The individual is directly assigned a large key/card number (i.e., a key/card translation table is not being used to translate the user’s key/card number).

Issue Cannot open history in the station, error  as follows: ERROR [13:02:33 25-Apr-13 PDT][sys.service] Service start failed: History Service java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: duplicate name history    at javax.baja.nav.BNavContainer.addNavChild(BNavContainer.java)    at javax.baja.naming.BHost.addNavChild(BHost.java)    at javax.baja.history.BHistoryService.initDataRecoverySource(BHistoryService.java) .................. Environment I/A Series G3 station Cause Duplicate name of history. Resolution Using Workbench: Connect to the station and go to the property sheet view of the root config of the station. Hit ctrl + L, which opens the current ord dialog Paste in the below text to the end of the current ord. |bql:select slotPath,name from history:HistoryService It should display a table and show the slot path of each of the history service components. Locate and delete the extra service.

Issue Where are the CE certificates available for the products in the Xenta family portfolio? Environment Xenta family Cause In some applications, CE certificates are required by the end customer or consultant as Declaration of Conformity .  Resolution In general, the CE certificates are available for download on The Exchange Download Center. Download Xenta CE Declarations certificates

Issue The STR800 sensor is a replacement for the TSMN-57011-850.  What is the thermistor's accuracy?  The datasheet (F-27739) does not provide this information. Environment Temperature sensors Cause Missing data in the spec sheet Resolution Sensing Element:  Thermistor resistance, 10,000 ohms at 77°F (25°C) shunted with an 11K ohms 0.1% resistor. Within operating temperature limits of 32 to 158°F (0 to 70°C): Error ±0.36°F (0.2°C) maximum Drift/Year 0.045°F (0.025°C) maximum Over Operating Temperature Limits: Error ±0.76°F (0.42°C) maximum Drift/Year 0.09°F (0.05°C) maximum

Issue Import/ Export functions of Tree Tech 3.2 on Windows XP SP3 were disabled by recent Microsoft update. No .GDF file exported, no error message displayed. Environment Tree Tech revision 3.2 installed on Windows XP SP3 computer Cause Believed to have been caused by a recent Microsoft update.  Resolution There are two work-around options: Run Tree Tech 3.2 on Windows 7 , 32-bit machine If the project database is backed up from the Windows XP computer, it can be reloaded on the Windows 7 computer. The project database path on the Windows XP computer is: c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Schneider Electric\TreeTech\Jobs\Projects\  On a Windows 7 computer, the file path for the TreeTech database is c:\Program Data\Schneider Electric\TreeTech\Jobs\Projects\    Un-install Tree Tech 3.2, install Tree Tech 3.1 on Win XP SP3 machine if no Win 7 machine available. Tree Tech 3.1.exe is available on The Exchange Download Center Run the WIBs purchase, generate license request for IV-DEMO-CDE, send file to us to create a license. OK to export GCM database already uploaded in 3.2 

Issue Unable to Login into Webpage after java update 7_21 Environment R2, G3 Cause Java's latest update  7_21 (and later) includes a new option to keep temporary internet files.  This is creating issues with the user login and with displaying some graphics. Resolution A.  Configure Java so that it does not cache the applet files. Go to Windows Control Panel (\via the Start menu Open Java Console General tab --  Temporary Internet Files Click [Settings] Uncheck "Keep temporary files on my computer" Click [Delete Files] Check  "Cached Applications and Applets" then click [OK] Close Java Console B. Clear the browser's cache. Clear the temporary internet files, cookies and history. NOTE: Each browser is cleared differently. Use the browser's help for information on clearing its cache. C.  Manually clear the cached application and applets for specific applications: Delete all the files in the 'wbapplet' cache. Windows, clicking Start > Run... and entering %userProfile% will open the local Windows user directory.  \niagara\wbapplet\modules   Delete everything in the 'Secondary Applet' cache, also located under the current %userProfile% folder. Windows 7: \AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment\cache Windows XP: \Application data\sun\java\deployment\cache        

Issue After an attempt to cold start the controller by removing AC power with the batteries disconnected, the unit started up with its CPU light flashing very rapidly (hard failure mode) Environment ACX780 ACX781 Cause Partly cleared memory. The random access memory  (RAM) on the ACX78x take a long time to erase. Resolution Remove the batteries Power down the unit Wait 5 minutes Power up the unit

Issue What Ethernet speed and duplex is supported by the MNB-1000? Environment MNB-1000 Cause Specifications for IT infrastructure Resolution The MNB-1000 controller has auto-sensing Ethernet port (10/100 MB, half / full duplex) capabilities and are dependent on the network / switch to which they are connected.  The MNB-1000 has the ability to auto negotiate with the Ethernet network on startup.

Issue Does TAC Vista support the protocol ESPA 4.4.4? Environment TAC Vista 5.1.8 Cause Vista server supports: OPC Lon The Xenta 913 supports: Bacnet Modbus M-bus Clipsal C-Bus Resolution TAC Vista has no support for ESPA 4.4.4

Issue Can the I/A Series R2 ModbusAsync driver be configured to control minimum send time between Modbus messages to the bus? Environment I/A Series R2, Modbus Cause The Modbus device under control is unable to process messages at normal rates and requires a delay between messages received. Resolution The minimum send time between Modbus messages can be controlled by adding a parameter into the drivers.properties file. Note: Requires modbusAsync-2.302.514.v1 or higher. Open the UNC with the admin tool and go to the Installation tab. Edit the drivers.properties file. Add the property (shown below) on its own line within the file. Set the value the number of mSec of delay between messages. Save the file and reboot the station (remember to backup the station when requested). modbusAsync.minSendInterval=1000

Issue Attempting to enter a conversion that references an object (point, PE function etc) results in error.. "Could not validate conversion formula" Environment Automation Server BACnet interface b3 device. Cause By design in SBO a point conversion can not contain references to other objects in the server. Resolution Remove the reference and substitute a hard coded value EXAMPLE: sqrt(elecvalue) * kfactor In the conversion above, 'kfactor' is an analog value in the b3, the conversion can't be validated due to the reference to kfactor. The solution is to replace 'kfactor' with its actual value sqrt(elecvalue) * 10

Issue Bindings do not work. Environment Binding BACnet Output Digital Output Cause When the BACnet point changes in value, it does not change the value of the Digital output.   Resolution The StruxureWare Building Operation core architecture (as of version 1.3) allows cross server “read” references, but not cross server “write” references. This was the design from 1.0, and effects everyone – not just BACnet (ie. script programs would have the same behavior). What this means for the BACnet associated value is that inputs (which are “read” references) can be done cross server, while outputs (which are “write” references) can be only be within a single server.

Issue Camera will not move to preset PTZ on video alarm, from Video Monitor the camera can be moved to the preset in live video. Environment CyberStation Video Server Video Monitor Cause Issue with accVideoRecordingSrvc.exe at workstation that is logging the alarm. NOTE: The accVideoRecordingSrvc.exe problem could happen at any workstation not necessarily the workstation receiving the alarm. Resolution Check all workstations looking for any indication that there has been a problem with accVideoRecordingSvr.exe Shutdown then re-start Continuum on the workstation reporting issues with accVideoRecordingSvr.exe

Issue When receiving an alarm from a BACnet device, the alarm text display does not match the text entered in the SmartStruxure configuration of the alarm object. Also performing a 'Recheck' from the alarm viewer results in the alarm text fields going blank. Environment AS ES BACnet device Cause As of version 1.3 SmartStruxure uses BACnet protocol version 6, as a result of that SmartStruxure is not able to read or write the alarm text message from BACnet devices. If a device includes the text message with an alarm event SmartStruxure will use the message when displaying the alarm in the alarm viewer but on alarm re-check it will use the alarm messages in the SmartStruxure database as it’s not able to read that information from the device. When using messages from the device and performing an alarm ‘Recheck’ the alarm messages will be blank unless they are set on the SmartStruxure side. This issue will addressed by SmartStruxure In the future when BACnet protocol revision 13 is supported. Resolution To work around this issue do one of the following: Configure the BACnet device so that no text is sent with the alarm. or   Enter alarm text on the SmartStruxure side to match the text sent from the controller.

Issue Can an automation server be installed with a backup database without the need for Workstation?  For example, can a backup database be installed on a USB stick that is programmed to 'auto-run' when it is plugged into the automation server? Environment StruxureWare for Building Operations (all versions) Cause Customer works in the industrial refrigeration industry and his field personnel are primarily mechanics with limited pc knowledge.  Wants to use a stand-alone AS to control the refrigeration system.  Sites are mostly remote (several hours by car and/or flights).  Wants to send programming changes, due to site installation changes, as a self-extracting and self-installing file on a USB stick. Trying to avoid supplying the necessary laptops and Workstation training to the mechanics. Resolution This feature is not available.  Workstation is required for database administration.

Issue Which pockets are included with the different size meters? Environment Kamstrup Heat meter Flow meter Cause Different applications requires different sensor pockets. Resolution 65mm pockets included up to DN20, 90mm pockets between DN25-DN80, 140mm pockets from DN100 and up.

Issue Linkage kits to be used with Satchwell ALE (s) , ALi, ALX (s), ALM (s) on Schneider Electric Venta V and VG Valve bodies Environment Linkage Kits Cause Linkage kits to be used with Satchwell ALE (s) , ALi, ALX (s), ALM (s) on Schneider Electric Venta V and VG Valve bodies. Resolution Use the L8TV linkage kit part no. 914-1080-000 on V type valve bodies e.g. V211, V211T, V311, V311T, V231, V241, V212, V222, V232, V292, V341 Use the L9TVG linkage kit part no. 914-108-000 on VG type valve bodies e.g. VGS211F, VG221F, VG311F