Building Automation Knowledge Base

Issue Linkage kits to be used with Satchwell ALE (s) , ALi, ALX (s), ALM (s) on Schneider Electric Venta V and VG Valve bodies Environment Linkage Kits Cause Linkage kits to be used with Satchwell ALE (s) , ALi, ALX (s), ALM (s) on Schneider Electric Venta V and VG Valve bodies. Resolution Use the L8TV linkage kit part no. 914-1080-000 on V type valve bodies e.g. V211, V211T, V311, V311T, V231, V241, V212, V222, V232, V292, V341 Use the L9TVG linkage kit part no. 914-108-000 on VG type valve bodies e.g. VGS211F, VG221F, VG311F

Issue Do we have a replacement for the Fire Rated Damper Actuator: Make: Siebe Environmental Controls Part No: MA – 223   Environment Fire Rated Smoke actuators MA-223-0-2 Cause Siebe Fire/ Smoke rated damper actuators are all obsolete. Resolution Schneider Electric no longer manufacture any fire and smoke actuators so the MA-223 range are obsolete with no replacement. The only suggestion we can offer is for the customer to contact the damper manufacturer that this actuator is mounted on and see what they would use to replace the actuator. We only sold these fire/smoke rated actuators directly to the damper manufacturers.  

Issue In older versions of the documentation for V292, the Kvs value is incorrectly listed for some sizes.  Environment V292: 7219254000 7219258000 7219262000 7219266000 7219270000 Cause Incorrect information in older documentation. Resolution To make sure you are using the correct Kvs value, please refer to the latest available documentation that is available on the Extranet.

Issue NM24-SR is obsolete and needs be replaced. Environment   8760020000 NM24-SR  8751019000 MD10A-24 Cause Obsolete product needs replacement. Resolution   NM24-SR (8760020000) is replaced by the MD10A-24 (8751019000)

Issue What is the maximum system pressure for the meters? Environment Kamstrup Heat meter cool meter flow meter Cause It is important to make sure that the system pressure does not exceed the maximum pressure specified for the components included. Resolution Depending on which meter is chosen, it is either 16 Bar (PN16) or 25 Bar (PN25). This is defined in the charts that are available here: Heat/Flow Meter

Issue Which actuator is suitable for valve VGS211F? Environment VGS211F: VGS211F-15CS04 VGS211F-15CS05 VGS211F-15CS07 VGS211F-15CS08 VGS211F-20CS VGS211F-25CS VGS211F-32CS VGS211F-40CS VGS211F-50CS VGS211F-65CS VGS211F-80CS VGS211F-100CS Forta: M700 MG900SR M800 M1500/MV15B M3000 Cause Application assistance. Resolution Depending on application,  the Forta range actuators are suitable: M700, MG900SR, M800, M1500/MV15B, M3000.   For more information ad details, please see the VGS211F data sheet.

Issue Will a MVB46 fit straight onto a V311T valve?   Environment Controlli / Satchwell MVB46 TAC Forta Cause Controlli actuator on Schneider Electric / TAC valve Resolution   The Forta series actuators are suitable for use on the V311T valve. The data sheet for V311T has the different size Forta actuators listed, depending on application requirements.

Issue Needs a European replacement for a US product. Environment MS61-7203 AV-822 linkage kit TAC Forta Cause Replacing US portfolio product from EU equivalent. Resolution Use the TAC forta actuator that suits the application best. Together with linkage kit AV-622 this will fit most of the valves where the MS61-7203 fits.

Issue MZ88T is obsolete.  Environment MZ88T: 8455011000 8455013000 8455015000 MZ140-230T MZ140-24T MZ140-24M Cause Obsolete actuator needs replacement.  Resolution MZ88T series is replaced by the MZ140 series: MZ88T (230) is replaced by MZ140-230T MZ88T (24) is replaced by MZ140-24T MZ88TA is replaced by MZ140-24M

Issue What grade of stainless steel is used in the Satchwell DWA range of sensor pockets Environment Sensor Pockets DWA Satchwell Cause Customer requires assurance that the stainless steel pockets are the correct grade. Resolution The DWA (Satchwell range) pockets that we sell are made from 316Ti steel. We use 316Ti rather than the 316L because of elevated temperature mechanical strength, pitting corrosion resistance, mechanical polishing and weldability.

Issue What mains actuator can be used with a VTRA rotary valve? Environment VTRA Actuator Mains Cause Existing actuator has failed and is no longer available. Resolution The replacement actuator and linkage are required; M9B-230 actuator - 860-1020-000 Linkage - 860-0990-000

Issue Which sensors can be used if mounted directly into the pipe, without pockets? Environment Kamstrup heat cool flow meters Cause In some applications, sensors mounted directly into the pipe, without using pocket, is requested. Resolution Unfortunately, we do only recommend the sensors that are included with the meter package, or ordered as an option with longer cords. All are requiring pockets for proper mounting. 

Issue V282 is obsolete and a replacement valve is requested.  Environment V282: 7218206000 7218210000 7218214000 7218218000 7218222000 7218226000 7218230000 7218234000 7218238000 7218242000 7218246000 7218250000   V241: 7214106000 7214110000 7214114000 7214118000 7214122000 7214126000 7214130000 7214134000 7214138000 7214142000 7214146000 7214150000 Cause Obsolete valve needs replacement. Resolution The recommended replacement valve for valve model V282 is V241. However, when so is done, pipe work will be necessary to adapt to installation with couplings and dimensions.

Issue V298 is obsolete and needs a replacement Environment V231: 7213106000 7213110000 7213114000 7213118000 7213122000 7213126000 7213130000 7213134000 7213138000 7213142000 7213146000 7213150000 V298: 7219818000 7219822000 7219826000 7219830000 7219834000 7219838000 7219442000 7219846000 Cause Obsolete valve needs replacement Resolution V298 valves can be replaced by valves from the V231 family. For more details, please see the data sheets for each valve model. Please note that the V298 closes with stem down, while V231 closes with the stem up.

Issue How to estimate the thermal load (BTU/hr) that your controllers and equipment will produce. Environment All electrical equipment. Cause Need to know what the thermal load of our equipment will be for calculating air conditioning capacity. Not all of our equipment has this information provided in data sheets. Resolution It is possible to calculate the thermal load based on the power consumption of each device. See here for an online calculator. You can calculate the BTU/hr using the following formula. BTU/hr = Power (W) * 3.1412141633 As an example, looking at the Continuum AC-1 I/O module's datasheet, we see that it consumes 2.6W without the attached reader (you would need to add the power from the reader as well if it is being powered by the AC-1). Which gives us; AC-1 = 2.6W * 3.412141633 = 8.87 BTU/hr Use this same calculation for any other devices that you require the thermal load for.

Issue Which replacement gland kit is suitable for the VZ, VZF, VSF valves? Environment VZ, VZF, VSF 626-9-203 667-9-201 626-9-311 Cause Replacement for worn out components Resolution For VZ, all sizes, use: 626-9-203 For VSF 15, 20, 25mm, use: 626-9-203 For VSF 32-50mm, use: 667-9-201 For VZF 65-150mm, use: 626-9-311 For more information and details, please see the data sheets.

Issue Do we have any thermal switches in our portfolio? Environment Thermal switch bi-metal Cause Application or customer requires/requests a bi-metal thermal switch Resolution Unfortunately, no such product is available in neither the "Industries" or the "Buildings" portfolio.

Issue Are there any bi-directional flowmeters available in our meters offer? Environment Kamstrup Flow meter Cause Product application request Resolution Unfortunately there is currently no such meter available in our portfolio. 

Issue Where can the Zelio relay family be ordered? Environment Zelio relay Cause Unable to order through Schneider Electric Buildings organisation. Resolution The Zelio relays are available through the Schneider Electric Power business organisation. Please contact the regional Schneider Electric front office for more information.

Issue I'm looking for a part number for the ATV 21 Variable Speed Drive but it does not appear on the part number list Environment ATV 21 ATV 212 Altivar  Variable Speed Drive Cause Part number has been discontinued Resolution There is now a new name for the ATV 21 Variable Speed Drive as this old version has now been updated The new name for the ATV 21 is ATV 212 or Altivar 212 the below is a link to the Schneider Electric web site where all documentation, part numbers, distributors and Support can be found Altivar 212