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Robert_Lee
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New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Post a list of devices you'd want to see support added (either as a native device or just a Modbus folder).

 

Here's a list of native devices presently supported by ION Setup today:

 

Schneider Electric SquareD Siemens Power Measurement Ltd. Other

ION8800 Power Meter

ION7400 Power Meter

ION7550 Power Meter

ION7650 Power Meter

ION8650 Power Meter

PowerLogic BCPM

PowerLogic BCPME

EasyLogic DM6200 Digital Meter

EasyLogic DM6300 Digital Meter

PowerLogic E5600 Energy Meter

EasyLogic EM1200 Energy Meter

EasyLogic EM1220 Energy Meter

EasyLogic EM1350 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM3550 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM3555 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM4235 Enercept

PowerLogic EM4236 Enercept

PowerLogic EM4900 MCM2

PowerLogic EM6400 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6400NG Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6430 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6433 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6434 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6435 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6436 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6438 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM6459 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM7230 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM7280 Energy Meter

PowerLogic EM7290 Energy Meter

PowerLogic Enercept Meter

PowerLogic Enercept E23C6 Meter

PowerLogic iEM3150 Energy Meter

PowerLogic iEM3155 Energy Meter

PowerLogic iEM3250 Energy Meter

PowerLogic iEM3255 Energy Meter

PowerLogic iEM3350 Energy Meter

PowerLogic iEM3355 Energy Meter

PowerLogic iEM3455 Energy Meter

PowerLogic iEM3555 Energy Meter

EasyLogic PM1200 Power Meter

EasyLogic PM2120 Power Meter

EasyLogic PM2125 Power Meter

EasyLogic PM2130 Power Meter

EasyLogic PM2220 Power Meter

EasyLogic PM2225 Power Meter

EasyLogic PM2230 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM3250 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM3255 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5110 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5111 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5310 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5311 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5320 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5330 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5331 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5340 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5341 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5350 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5560 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5561 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM5563 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM8000 Power Meter

ION9000 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM200 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM600 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM620 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM650 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM700 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM750 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM810 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM820 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM850 Power Meter

PowerLogic PM870 Power Meter

PowerLogic CM2050 Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM2150 Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM2250 Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM2350 Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM2450 Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM3250 Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM3350 Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM4000T Circuit Monitor

PowerLogic CM4250 Circuit Monitor

4300 Power Meter

4700 Power Meter

4720 Power Meter

9200 Power Meter

9300 Power Meter

9330 Power Meter

9340 Power Meter

9350 Power Meter

9360 Power Meter

9410 Power Meter

9500 Power Meter

9500 RTU

9510 Power Meter

9510 RTU

9600 Power Meter

9610 Power Meter

9700 Power Meter

3300 ACM Power Meter

3350 PDM Power Demand Monitor

3710 ACM Power Meter

3720 ACM Power Meter

3750 PDC Demand Controller

3800 RTU

ION6200 Power Meter

ION6300 Power Meter

ION7300 Power Meter

ION7330 Power Meter

ION7350 Power Meter

ION7500 Power Meter

ION7500 RTU

ION7550 Power Meter

ION7550 RTU

ION7600 Power Meter

ION7650 Power Meter

ION7700 Power Meter

ION8300 Power Meter

ION8400 Power Meter

ION8500 Power Meter

ION8600 Power Meter

ION8800 Power Meter

Allen-Bradley 1400 PB Power Meter

Allen-Bradley 1400 PD Power Meter

ABB 8300 Power Meter

ABB 8400 Power Meter

ABB 8500 Power Meter

GE 7700 ION Power Meter

 

List of supported Modbus RTU-based devices:

 

  • Veris BCM
  • Momentum PLC A8
  • Momentum PLC A16
  • Momentum PLC D10
  • Momentum PLC D16
  • Twido PLC D12
  • Twido PLC D28
  • Twido PLC D44
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Brad
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Thanks Rob,

We would like to put our vote in for the following devices:

EM4800

MicroLogic Trip Units

NSX Breakers

If you need any further clarification, let me know.

Robert_Lee
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

I'm looking into at least add some type of support for the Micrologic Trip Units already (PowerPact Models A/P/H and something for the Masterpact) but am unfamiliar with the EM4800 and NSX Breakers.

Would you happen to have some documentation on the Modbus maps for those devices?

Would also help if I could get remote access to some of these as well.

Digital_Hastak
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Re: Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Hi Robert,

EM4800 is a third party device supplied by Triacta and is equivalent of Triacta Power Hawk range. It would be great if we could have EM4800 configuration as well in ION Setup. Currently we use SE Metershop or a Schneider-ised version of Triacta tool and it is not very user friendly.

Also Compact NSX Micrologic and Micrologics for Compact NS and Masterpact share a lot of common registers too.

I am including the modbus list for both for your reference.

Looking forward to see if its possible to include those in it.

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Re: Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Hi Hastak,

Thanks for the information and when I get a chance I'll take a look at the map and see how easy it is to implement and check around if we have a EM4800 somewhere at Betram that I can try to interface to.

Yu_Diao
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Just out of curious, what kind action/info you would like to do to MLTU and NSX breakers in ION Setup?

I normally only need to set up all communication parameters right from the front panel and they are good to go in the monitoring perspective. For NSX, I believe the only thing required is the modbus address, and the IFM module will auto-adapt to the RS485 baud rate and parity.

Except that, all other parameters are related to the protection settings (maybe data and time are common settings), and should be set up by the breaker guys rather than monitoring guys like myself. As far as I know, there ARE software (like RSU, LSU...) from other entity of Schneider to set these parameter up.

Anyway, my points is ION setup should NOT have the capability to mess up any protection parameters, they should be left alone to the specified existing software. Under this assumption, wonder what else ION setup can do with these trip units? Maybe sync the time and view the real time data?

sesa18210
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

I would like to see support for PM6. I currently have a customer that has migrated from SMS to PME. The migration has not been pretty and this is another blemish to the issues they have been suffering. Currently our documentation still refers to SMS and we have to tell them to use PMCU. They are not happy at all.

Yu_Diao
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

loretta,

The lastest progress on PM6 can be found here Re: Needs PM600 meter support in ION Setup. I believe I put in this request when I first came off site from the customer you mentioned, we are making some progress, as the newest ION setup can set up basic parameters and on-board logs in PM6, but not the on-board alarms yet.

Regards,

Robert_Lee
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

PM600 alarm support should now be available in 3.0.14077.03 available on Box/FTP.

Its still very preliminary and there could be some issues still as I try to find available time to do further testing.  Any issue(s) found, please report them directly to me via e-mail.

Robert_Lee
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Also looked into supporting the EM4800 and it doesn't look like it supports device configuration via Modbus (the Triacta software tools seems to use some type of Telnet interface).  Without any further documentation, it would be ill advised and time consuming to attempt to replicate that functionality and unless we want to add just viewing support, then it might just not be worth looking into this further.

narkshark
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Hi Robert,

I created my first knowledgebase article on the topic of device support in ION Setup here.

I will try to update it periodically as you release newer versions of the software.

j_graefe_beenen
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

SIM 10 modules would be useful.

Robert_Lee
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup


I've never heard of SIM 10 modules (who manufactures them).  Do they communicate Modbus?  One could manually add a generic Modbus driver to an existing deployment using just Notepad (clue: Open some of the files found in the TABLES\Modbus\... subfolders using Notepad and you can figure out stuff fairly easily at least to view real-time info).  But any added devices to the device list would need to have a sufficient use case to have me add primary support in the software.

michael_franz
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

810D Trip units.  Now I AM showing my age.  Have several customers with these and they do not plan to replace distribution equipment anytime soon.  Hospital setting...

NEED in PME TOO!!!

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Jun_Escano
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Maybe a long shot but what about the PM9c (old PM meter) ?

We have sold many of these untill they became obsolete.

Robert_Lee
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

By the looks of the PDF you attached, these old circuit breakers only communicated using Sy/Max protocol (original SquareD protocol) which ION Setup presently doesn't communicate natively.  If one of the gateway products like EGX or ComX has a Modbus TCP translator (like it does for the CM2xxx), then it might be feasible to add some of the registers in ION Setup for viewing (and/or you could set something up in PME using the MDI).

Being a protection device, I would hesitate in attempting to implement any type of configuration support in ION Setup due to the nature of the product (and likely complexity).

michael_franz
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Robert:

Once the meter goes though a gateway this is translated to Modbus.

Thanks,

Michael

sesa402887_brid
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Hi ,

I have issue with configuration of the ION enterprise version 7.2.1 with new device of PM2120. there is a error message as " valid version "

I used following link for configuration

http://www.schneider-electric.co.in/en/download/document/PM2000_Series_SE_Driver_PME_7.2.2_ENG/

Please kindly informed me where i can find the ION enterprise version 7.2.1 driver to setup the above meter..

Best Regards,

Sandamali Gunathilaka

Charles_Murison
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Hello Sandamali,

1) ION Setup and PME are 2 separate sofware

2) The driver name indicates that this supports PME 7.2 SP2, you will need to upgrade PME to 7.2.2 to use the driver. It is very likely there is no driver for PME 7.2.1

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michael_franz
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Re: New devices to consider being added to ION Setup

Vote for all the Square D PowerLogic meters since there are so many in the field now.