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Hello everybody,
I'm developing a multisite PME with ION7650, the customer is asking me a series of parameters but I haven't found them among the native measurements of the meter or in the standard graphic in PME.
The parameters are:
- Displacement power factor (I haven't found it)
- Average PF (I haven't found it)
- Working time of the meter (I haven't found it)
I would like to know if I have to develop frameworks in designer to have these measurement or if any of them is already present natively in the meter.
In addition, I saw:
- Crest factor of I and V : I saw they are available, but they're not present in the standard graphic
- Harmonics until the 63rd: I saw that in the standard graphic harmonics are shown up to the 15th, I need to see more.
Should I modify the standard graphics or is there any quicker way to have these parameters displayed?
Thanks in advance to whoever's gonna help me!
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I'm looking at the (default) ION7650v410 with 7650_FAC-PQ_V4.1.0.0.1 framework
assuming: 4W-WYE volts mode
Displacement PF: My recomendation is to use the fundamental phase angles from the existing HME modules #1 through #6 (3s gapless 4-30 harmonic analysis). In order to compute the 3phase TOTAL displacement PF, you need to also compute the total fundamental powers.
The best implementation I can come up with on the spot uses three new ART modules.
ART40 | ||||
Input | Name | Label | Setup Formula | Output Label |
1 | HME2 Magnitude 1 | V2 H1 Mag 3s | (S2-S4)*PI/180 | |
2 | HME2 Phase 1 | V2 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3*cos(R1)/1000 | fund kW2 |
3 | HME5 Magnitude 1 | I2 H1 Mag 3s | S1*S3*sin(R1)/1000 | fund kVAR2 |
4 | HME5 Phase 1 | I2 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3/1000 | fund kVA2 |
5 | HME3 Magnitude 1 | V3 H1 Mag 3s | (S6-S8)*PI/180 | |
6 | HME3 Phase 1 | V3 H1 Ang 3s | S5*S7*cos(R5)/1000 | fund kW3 |
7 | HME6 Magnitude 1 | I3 H1 Mag 3s | S5*S7*sin(R5)/1000 | fund kVAR3 |
8 | HME6 Phase 1 | I3 H1 Ang 3s | S5*S7/1000 | fund kVA3 |
ART41 | ||||
Input | Name | Label | Setup Formula | Output Label |
1 | HME1 Magnitude 1 | V1 H1 Mag 3s | (S2-S4)*PI/180 | |
2 | HME1 Phase 1 | V1 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3*cos(R1)/1000 | fund kW1 |
3 | HME4 Magnitude 1 | I1 H1 Mag 3s | S1*S3*sin(R1)/1000 | fund kVAR1 |
4 | HME4 Phase 1 | I1 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3 | fund kVA1 |
5 | ART40 Result2 | fund kW2 | ||
6 | ART40 Result3 | fund kVAR2 | R2+S5+S7 | fund kWtot |
7 | ART40 Result6 | fund kW3 | R3+S6+S8 | fund kVARtot |
8 | ART40 Result7 | fund kVAR3 | sqrt(R6*R6+R7*R7) | fund kVAtot |
ART42 | ||||
Input | Name | Label | Setup Formula | Output Label |
1 | IEEE PF Sign Convention | sqrt(S3*S3+S4*S4) | ||
2 | ART41 Result6 | fund kWtot | sqrt(S5*S5+S6*S6) | |
3 | ART41 Result2 | fund kW1 | sqrt(S7*S7+S8*S8) | |
4 | ART41 Result3 | fund kVAR1 | R1+R2+R3 | |
5 | ART40 Result2 | fund kW2 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S4>0,-1,1))*S3/R1 | %DPF_1 |
6 | ART40 Result3 | fund kVAR2 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S6>0,-1,1))*S5/R2 | %DPF_2 |
7 | ART40 Result6 | fund kW3 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S8>0,-1,1))*S7/R3 | %DPF_3 |
8 | ART40 Result7 | fund kVAR3 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S4+S6+S8>0,-1,1))*S2/R4 | %DPF_tot |
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- Displacement power factor
Not calculated on the meter by default I believe, could you possibly calculate this from the phase angle of Current Versis phase angle of the voltage?
- Average PF
Pf lag and PF Lead Mean from sliding demand window modules.
- Working time of the meter
Not sure about this, possibly connect a counter module to clock module new day/hour
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I'm looking at the (default) ION7650v410 with 7650_FAC-PQ_V4.1.0.0.1 framework
assuming: 4W-WYE volts mode
Displacement PF: My recomendation is to use the fundamental phase angles from the existing HME modules #1 through #6 (3s gapless 4-30 harmonic analysis). In order to compute the 3phase TOTAL displacement PF, you need to also compute the total fundamental powers.
The best implementation I can come up with on the spot uses three new ART modules.
ART40 | ||||
Input | Name | Label | Setup Formula | Output Label |
1 | HME2 Magnitude 1 | V2 H1 Mag 3s | (S2-S4)*PI/180 | |
2 | HME2 Phase 1 | V2 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3*cos(R1)/1000 | fund kW2 |
3 | HME5 Magnitude 1 | I2 H1 Mag 3s | S1*S3*sin(R1)/1000 | fund kVAR2 |
4 | HME5 Phase 1 | I2 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3/1000 | fund kVA2 |
5 | HME3 Magnitude 1 | V3 H1 Mag 3s | (S6-S8)*PI/180 | |
6 | HME3 Phase 1 | V3 H1 Ang 3s | S5*S7*cos(R5)/1000 | fund kW3 |
7 | HME6 Magnitude 1 | I3 H1 Mag 3s | S5*S7*sin(R5)/1000 | fund kVAR3 |
8 | HME6 Phase 1 | I3 H1 Ang 3s | S5*S7/1000 | fund kVA3 |
ART41 | ||||
Input | Name | Label | Setup Formula | Output Label |
1 | HME1 Magnitude 1 | V1 H1 Mag 3s | (S2-S4)*PI/180 | |
2 | HME1 Phase 1 | V1 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3*cos(R1)/1000 | fund kW1 |
3 | HME4 Magnitude 1 | I1 H1 Mag 3s | S1*S3*sin(R1)/1000 | fund kVAR1 |
4 | HME4 Phase 1 | I1 H1 Ang 3s | S1*S3 | fund kVA1 |
5 | ART40 Result2 | fund kW2 | ||
6 | ART40 Result3 | fund kVAR2 | R2+S5+S7 | fund kWtot |
7 | ART40 Result6 | fund kW3 | R3+S6+S8 | fund kVARtot |
8 | ART40 Result7 | fund kVAR3 | sqrt(R6*R6+R7*R7) | fund kVAtot |
ART42 | ||||
Input | Name | Label | Setup Formula | Output Label |
1 | IEEE PF Sign Convention | sqrt(S3*S3+S4*S4) | ||
2 | ART41 Result6 | fund kWtot | sqrt(S5*S5+S6*S6) | |
3 | ART41 Result2 | fund kW1 | sqrt(S7*S7+S8*S8) | |
4 | ART41 Result3 | fund kVAR1 | R1+R2+R3 | |
5 | ART40 Result2 | fund kW2 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S4>0,-1,1))*S3/R1 | %DPF_1 |
6 | ART40 Result3 | fund kVAR2 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S6>0,-1,1))*S5/R2 | %DPF_2 |
7 | ART40 Result6 | fund kW3 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S8>0,-1,1))*S7/R3 | %DPF_3 |
8 | ART40 Result7 | fund kVAR3 | 100*If(S1=0,1,If(S4+S6+S8>0,-1,1))*S2/R4 | %DPF_tot |
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For Average PF: do NOT simply use a sliding window demand module to compute a time averaging of the power factor ratio. This does not make sense mathematically to perform an un-weighted average... instead you must divide the time averaged real power [kW] by the time averaged average apparent power [kVA] (and multiply by your preffered sign convention).
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I do not have the exact framework, but in older ION7650 meters (before V350), there was the "Power Availability Framework".
Looking at the ION Device Template Reference, it may be possible to re-build this. I believe this framework was taken out becuase of processing space so it may need to be trimmed down or possibly other features removed.
https://www.schneider-electric.com/en/download/document/ION_Device_Template_Reference/
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