How many batteries are in a smartups vt module?

[BillP]

Hi folks,

was in a pinch the other day with a bad batt module.. Do any of you know how many batts
and the Amp hr ratings are in a smartups 15kva Vt module so
the co can use locally purchased batteries in an emergency?

Thank You

[Erasmus_apc]

Smart-UPS VT batteries modules consist of qty. 8x, 12v, 7.2 AH batteries.

Keep in mind that APC will not support any malfunction, swelling, or other battery fault if non-APC battery modules are used, or if the modules are modified in any way.

[BillP]

Erasmus,

Thank you for your response. If they have a failed bat module at least they will now know they
can fix it in a pinch till they order replacement modules.

Thanks Again

APC kicks Powerwares BUTT !! who know they may soon kick Lieberts Butt !!

[Anonymous user]

Keep in mind that APC will not support any malfunction, swelling, or other battery fault if non-APC battery modules are used, or if the modules are modified in any way.

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Can you please explain this in more detail? Is the non-support for just the modules and batteries therein? Or for the whole unit if said batteries are installed?

Is putting other brand batteries in the modules considered a modification? What if we were to acquire APC batteries and put them in the modules?

Can the manufacture dates in the modules be changed to reflect newly installed batteries?

Would said batteries effect a maintenance plan in a negative manner? I would understand that the batteries and modules not be covered, but would they cover the UPS itself?

If we choose to go this route. What kind of support would you be able to provide and cost scenarios.

What is the expected life of a Symmetra UPS, and when is end of life support to end?

Thanks,

LeEric

Message was edited by: leericmarvin

[BillP]

hi LeEric,

to elaborate on what we were talking about in the earlier post..

APC designs the UPSs to be modular and provides battery modules for replacement for most UPSs. the modules are not field serviceable, thus APC cannot be responsible in any manner for any damage caused to the UPS or battery module itself if you replace the internal batteries on their own - APC VRLA or not.

in addition, for certain UPSs, there are also PCB's inside the batteries that require a factory reset so that they do not continue reporting a fault to a UPS which cannot be done by an end user.

replacing battery modules is supposed to be easy for the end user and that is why they are designed in this form - easy swap out/swap in.

in regards to your question, a single phase symmetra UPS has a lifecycle of 10 years generally, but batteries generally need to be replaced every 3-5 years depending on usage. i am not sure on the lifecycle of a 3 phase Symmetra (like the Symmetra PX) but i imagine it is the same.

thus, to conclude, APC cannot support any type of battery module modification because you are supposed to replace the entire module, not the internal VRLA batteries (no matter where you get them from or what type they are).

hope that helps.

oh and also, for single phase applications, using non-APC battery modules will most likely void the entire warranty on the UPS. APC does not know what type of damage the batteries can cause to the UPS if they are miswired, leaking, etc and who knows what else. again, i am a single phase UPS expert - I am not sure if it is different on the 3 phase units.

[BillP · Accepted solution]

Peeps out there ! there are fuses in the bat modules YOU CAN CHANGE THE INDIVIDUAL BATTERIES - All the batteries are made in China, Vietnam and other countries that the greedy big wigs
decide to take advantage of and pollute their people with toxic lead waste products - because they do not have environmental regulations as
strict as in the US and European union who have helped implement this global economy crap that has eliminated US jobs and help
toxify the world !