NetBotz 4-20mA input connection

DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

This question was originally posted on DCIM Support by Gabor Novak on 2019-12-09

Hi,

I have the task to connect 4-20mA sensors to DCE via NetBotz system.
The problem is that the 4-20mA sensors are connected with a galvanic splitter, it has built-in power supply. The splitter 4-20mA output is powered with 18VDC. The NetBotz 570 4-20mA input has own power supply with 24VDC.

Is there any way to connect 4-20mA sensors from the splitter to the NetBotz 570 4-20mA input?

Gabor

DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

This answer was originally posted on DCIM Support by spezialist on 2019-12-11

Dear Gabor Novak,

For obvious reasons, the active current output of the Datcon DT1112 U10 I4 I4 splitter cannot be connected to the active current inputs of 4-20 mA NetBotz appliances. Therefore, in your case, you can use a resistive voltage divider with a division factor of 2 together with a cable NBES0305 0...5V. As it should be, I pictured below:

A 500 Ohm load resistor is a converter of current to a voltage of 0...10 V. A resistor Rdiv=12kOhm, together with an input resistance of 12 kOhm of the NetBotz sensor port, creates a voltage divider with a division factor of 2.

The only requirement for this two resistors is accuracy not worse than 1%. Although this inaccuracy can then be compensated in the custom analog sensor setup menu in APC Advanced View.

In addition, you can simplify the solution to your problem using a current to voltage converter with a division factor of 2:

This scheme is simpler and more reliable. But this requires the use of an accurate load resistor with a non-standard resistance value. For the series of resistances E96 (1%), there is only 249 Ohm, and for the series of resistances E192 (0.5%) - 249 Ohm or 252 Ohm.

Again, any measurement inaccuracies can then be compensated in the setup menu of the custom analog sensor in APC Advanced View.

You can also read more about NetBotz sensor ports in topic .

If you have more questions, please ask.

With respect.

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DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

This comment was originally posted on DCIM Support by spezialist on 2019-12-09

Dear Gabor Novak,

It will be very good if you provide a web-link to the datasheet specification for your current galvanic splitter. And then they can help you faster and better 😀.

With respect.

DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

This comment was originally posted on DCIM Support by Gabor Novak on 2019-12-10

I have attached the splitter documentation.

DT1112-62 ANGOL.PDF

DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

This answer was originally posted on DCIM Support by spezialist on 2019-12-11

Dear Gabor Novak,

For obvious reasons, the active current output of the Datcon DT1112 U10 I4 I4 splitter cannot be connected to the active current inputs of 4-20 mA NetBotz appliances. Therefore, in your case, you can use a resistive voltage divider with a division factor of 2 together with a cable NBES0305 0...5V. As it should be, I pictured below:

A 500 Ohm load resistor is a converter of current to a voltage of 0...10 V. A resistor Rdiv=12kOhm, together with an input resistance of 12 kOhm of the NetBotz sensor port, creates a voltage divider with a division factor of 2.

The only requirement for this two resistors is accuracy not worse than 1%. Although this inaccuracy can then be compensated in the custom analog sensor setup menu in APC Advanced View.

In addition, you can simplify the solution to your problem using a current to voltage converter with a division factor of 2:

This scheme is simpler and more reliable. But this requires the use of an accurate load resistor with a non-standard resistance value. For the series of resistances E96 (1%), there is only 249 Ohm, and for the series of resistances E192 (0.5%) - 249 Ohm or 252 Ohm.

Again, any measurement inaccuracies can then be compensated in the setup menu of the custom analog sensor in APC Advanced View.

You can also read more about NetBotz sensor ports in topic .

If you have more questions, please ask.

With respect.

DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

This comment was originally posted on DCIM Support by Gabor Novak on 2019-12-13

Dear spezialist

I have made the resistive voltage divider with the 0-5 sensor cable. I have connected to the splitter and the NetBotz device. I have configured the custom sensor see the pictures below.

But the temperature reading is not correct. It should be around 20 Celsius.

Raw voltage sensor reading

If I look the voltage and the temperature reading it seems to be correct. They correlate to each other.

The problem can be with the resistor value.

Regards,

Gabor

DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

This comment was originally posted on DCIM Support by spezialist on 2019-12-13

Dear Gabor Novak,

You are right: I assumed that the input impedance of the NetBotz sensor ports is at least ~1 MOhm. As it turned out today from the official answer =SE= technical support, this is not entirely true. Below is very important information on the measurement accuracy and input impedance of the various NetBotz sensor ports.

4-20mA accuracy:
The accuracy of the NBRK0570 will be: +/-2.5% of reading plus +/-1.5% of Full Scale plus the error of the sensor itself. So for example: given a pressure sensor that is 0-100psi and has an accuracy of 1%; if the reading is 80psi, the total possible error would be 2.5% of 80psi + 1.5% of 100psi + 1% of 80psi = 2.0 + 1.5 + 0.8 = +/-4.3 psi.

Sensor Ports:

When using dry contact inputs (using NBES0304), they are switching 5 V into 12KOhm +/-0.1% (input impedance) which is 0.42 mA.

The 0-5 VDC input, using NBES0305, is a 12 KOhm +/-0.1% load (input impedance). Accuracy spec: +/-2.5% of reading +/- 10mV.

Unfortunately, I could not find any documentation or standard APC kbase wherever this information was published ☹️.

Therefore, I corrected my previous answer to your question. Please read it again.

With respect.

DCIM_Support · ‎2020-07-06

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