Help
  • Explore Community
  • Get Started
  • Ask the Community
  • How-To & Best Practices
  • Contact Support
Notifications
Login / Register
Community
Community
Notifications
close
  • Forums
  • Knowledge Center
  • Events & Webinars
  • Ideas
  • Blogs
Help
Help
  • Explore Community
  • Get Started
  • Ask the Community
  • How-To & Best Practices
  • Contact Support
Login / Register
Sustainability
Sustainability

We Value Your Feedback!
Could you please spare a few minutes to share your thoughts on Cloud Connected vs On-Premise Services. Your feedback can help us shape the future of services.
Learn more about the survey or Click here to Launch the survey
Schneider Electric Services Innovation Team!

Geo SCADA with Wonderware Historian / eDNA

EcoStruxure Geo SCADA Expert Forum

Schneider Electric support forum about installation, configuration, integration and troubleshooting of EcoStruxure Geo SCADA Expert (ClearSCADA, ViewX, WebX).

cancel
Turn on suggestions
Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type.
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
  • Home
  • Schneider Electric Community
  • Remote Operations
  • EcoStruxure Geo SCADA Expert Forum
  • Geo SCADA with Wonderware Historian / eDNA
Options
  • Mark Topic as New
  • Mark Topic as Read
  • Float this Topic for Current User
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Printer Friendly Page
Invite a Co-worker
Send a co-worker an invite to the portal.Just enter their email address and we'll connect them to register. After joining, they will belong to the same company.
You have entered an invalid email address. Please re-enter the email address.
This co-worker has already been invited to the Exchange portal. Please invite another co-worker.
Please enter email address
Send Invite Cancel
Invitation Sent
Your invitation was sent.Thanks for sharing Exchange with your co-worker.
Send New Invite Close
Top Experts
User Count
sbeadle
Kirk sbeadle Kirk
308
AndrewScott
Admiral AndrewScott
98
BevanWeiss
Spock BevanWeiss
91
AdamWoodlandToo
Lt. Commander AdamWoodlandToo
37
View All
Related Products
product field
Schneider Electric
EcoStruxure™ Geo SCADA Expert
product field
AVEVA
AVEVA™ Historian

Invite a Colleague

Found this content useful? Share it with a Colleague!

Invite a Colleague Invite
Back to EcoStruxure Geo SCADA Expert Forum
justinoj
Ensign justinoj
Ensign

Posted: ‎2021-11-24 04:43 PM . Last Modified: ‎2023-05-03 12:00 AM

0 Likes
2
1882
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

Posted: ‎2021-11-24 04:43 PM . Last Modified: ‎2023-05-03 12:00 AM

Geo SCADA with Wonderware Historian / eDNA

Hello Experts, 

Our customer is requesting for a proprietary historian software for storing Geo SCADA trend/event/alarm data. Requirements does not specify Wonderware historian, however, I'm familiar to Wonderware historian. 

Which third party Historian is capable of storing trend, event, alarm data for up to 20 years? Any historian for easy to integrate with Geo SCADA for exporting history data and also to display is highly recommended. It shall be easy to display as trend in native trend windows or activeX controls. 

 

Please provide recommendations.

 

Thanks in advance,

Justin

Labels
  • Labels:
  • Mimics
  • SCADA
  • Scripting
  • Trends
  • ViewX
  • Tags:
  • AVEVA Historian
  • eDNA
  • english
  • historian
  • scada
  • SCADA app
  • SCADA software
  • SCADA tutorial
  • Telemetry and SCADA
  • Wonderware Historian
  • Wonderware Historian Driver
Reply
Contact Support

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

  • All forum topics
  • Previous Topic
  • Next Topic
Replies 2
BevanWeiss
Spock BevanWeiss
Spock

Posted: ‎2021-11-24 08:27 PM

1 Like
1
1865
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

Posted: ‎2021-11-24 08:27 PM

I'm probably slightly biased here, but I've had good results with OSIsoft PI.  Which is now part of AVEVA.

 

HOWEVER... you've asked for:


...capable of storing trend, event, alarm data...

I think that you will really struggle to find a historian that does the event / alarm data.

 

OSIsoft PI will happily do the historic point data stuff.  We've got customers using it with over 20 years of data already without many problems.

But, for things like Event (text) / Alarm (text) data, historians really don't do it... since it doesn't have much meaning in a historical context.. you can't graph it, or trend it, or compare it.. it's just stored.  So for this, you could just keep it stored in Geo SCADA and archived at an appropriate interval.

 

We have had a customer that did indexing and storage of the Event Journal data (which includes alarm info) into a product called 'Splunk', whose entire purpose is to index and filter text log information.  They turned it off after a few years.  The licence cost was large, and the benefit was almost non-existent.  There really wasn't any meaningful reason to go back more than a few months to see text records of stuff.

For alarms, there were historical records of the point value and alarm state=1.. so it's easy to look over decades of data to find point value = 1 events.. you can even do a MAXIMUM historic aggregate for that to see what intervals had at least one alarm event...

 

If you were super keen on it, then possibly going with an open source solution like ElasticSearch might be worth while for the text data.

 

I would not really recommend Wonderware Historian.  The customers that have it currently generally regret their choice.  It doesn't appear to scale very well.  This might change with the introduction of Insight Historian.. but that's still a bit up in the air (and I believe is a cloud only offering).


Lead Control Systems Engineer for Alliance Automation (VIC).
All opinions are my own and do not represent the opinions or policies of my employer, or of my cat..
  • Tags:
  • english
  • scada
  • SCADA app
  • SCADA software
  • SCADA tutorial
  • Telemetry and SCADA
Reply
Contact Support

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

justinoj
Ensign justinoj
Ensign

Posted: ‎2021-11-24 08:37 PM

In response to BevanWeiss
0 Likes
0
1862
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

Posted: ‎2021-11-24 08:37 PM

Hi Bevan,

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

 

Regards,

Justin

  • Tags:
  • english
  • scada
  • SCADA app
  • SCADA software
  • SCADA tutorial
  • Telemetry and SCADA
Reply
Contact Support

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

To The Top!

Forums

  • APC UPS Data Center Backup Solutions
  • EcoStruxure IT
  • EcoStruxure Geo SCADA Expert
  • Metering & Power Quality
  • Schneider Electric Wiser

Knowledge Center

Events & webinars

Ideas

Blogs

Get Started

  • Ask the Community
  • Community Guidelines
  • Community User Guide
  • How-To & Best Practice
  • Experts Leaderboard
  • Contact Support
Brand-Logo
Subscribing is a smart move!
You can subscribe to this board after you log in or create your free account.
Forum-Icon

Create your free account or log in to subscribe to the board - and gain access to more than 10,000+ support articles along with insights from experts and peers.

Register today for FREE

Register Now

Already have an account? Login

Terms & Conditions Privacy Notice Change your Cookie Settings © 2025 Schneider Electric

This is a heading

With achievable small steps, users progress and continually feel satisfaction in task accomplishment.

Usetiful Onboarding Checklist remembers the progress of every user, allowing them to take bite-sized journeys and continue where they left.

of