UPS and Power Conditioner

[Anonymous user]

I'm already using a Back-UPS ES650 for a television and cd player and I got a great deal on a H10 Power Conditioner. Is there any problem using a seperate UPS and Power Conditioner??? If I go from the wall to the conditioner then thru the UPS to my tv, which outlet should I use from the conditioner??? Thanks for the help.

[Techie_apc · Accepted solution]

Jd,

As far as I know, APC does not recommend plugging a UPS into a Power Conditioner outlet. In order for your UPS to get the best power available, you should plug your UPS directly into the wall receptacle. Plugging your UPS into a power conditioner may cause the UPS to go to battery often when it normally should remain online. This is because other, more powerful equipment may draw necessary voltage away from the UPS which it requires to remain online.
[http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=310]

[Anonymous user · Accepted solution]

But, during those rare times when I lose power, will the power conditioner be able to deal with the step approximated sine wave that comes out of the UPS??? Thanks for the reply.

[Anonymous user · Accepted solution]

I had the same question as Jd. Is there any harm in trying to connect a 390 Watt CyperPower UPS (that I just use for my Panasonic PT-AE3000u projector) to the TV outlet on the back of the APC H10 1000W Power Conditioner? Besides the projector I have a receiver, cable box and XBox connected to the APC.

I just wanted to take advantage of the H10's better AVR than the CyberPower's, as I have a slight flicker in my display from time to time and live in an older house. Thanks.

[Techie_apc]

Jd,

Unfortunately, the Power Conditioner will NOT accept the Stepped approximation to a sine wave off the UPS. It requires a pure sine wave.

[Anonymous user]

Okay, so my choices are:

Go wall to UPS to Power Conditioner to devices which will work fine except when I lose power then the I will end up with no UPS power to anything. (same as having no UPS in the first place)

or

Go wall to Power Conditioner to UPS to devices which will work fine as long as there is enough power to keep the UPS offline.

or

Spend gobs and get a UPS/conditioner combo.

Did I miss anything??

I think the second choice is going to have to work for now. As I understand, when I'm not having a power outage or a bad fluctuation, the UPS will just be passing the very clean AVR voltage thru anyway. Does it matter which outlet from the Power Conditioner I use to supply the UPS???

Thanks for the help, the info. is very helpful.

[Techie_apc]

Jd,

I wouldn't recommend the first choice as the Power Conditioner itself offer surge protection, voltage regulation, and noise
filtering. The second choice sounds like a good idea for me. I would plug the UPS into any one of the Video filter outlets since you are using it to protect the TV and Video player. For your information, The H10 is rated for 1000 Watts (continuous). Please view the H10 user manual to know more about unit's output power capacity([http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/ASTE-6Z7V8W_R0_EN.pdf]). The ES650VA can provide 13.1 minutes(estimated) runtime at 195 watts and 3.8 minutes of runtime at 390 Watts. Is the ES650VA runtime sufficient for you in the event of power failure?

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[Techie_apc]

Jacob,

I do not think that plugging a third party unit to the APC unit is a good idea as it is not officially supported/tested. I think any other folks who have already tried this can offer you some suggestions.

For your information, the APC K-base ID: 1372 says that Plugging any non-APC surge protector, power strip, or extension cord into the output of an APC brand UPS could void your Equipment Protection Policy (EPP). However, the standard 2 year product warranty is maintained. If, after taking into consideration this knowledge base document, you choose to use an APC brand surge protector in conjunction with your APC brand UPS, your warranty and Equipment Protection Policy will be maintained.

[BillP]

when you plug in more stuff, you introduce more points of failure. if you guys want to set something up, which will be unsupported and could void warranties/equipment protection policy claims, i would plug in the APC H10 directly to the wall, and then plug in the UPS to one of the outlets and then plug your devices into that.