Help
  • Explore Community
  • Get Started
  • Ask the Community
  • How-To & Best Practices
  • Contact Support
Notifications
Login / Register
Community
Community
Notifications
close
  • Forums
  • Knowledge Center
  • Events & Webinars
  • Ideas
  • Blogs
Help
Help
  • Explore Community
  • Get Started
  • Ask the Community
  • How-To & Best Practices
  • Contact Support
Login / Register
Sustainability
Sustainability

Join our "Ask Me About" community webinar on May 20th at 9 AM CET and 5 PM CET to explore cybersecurity and monitoring for Data Center and edge IT. Learn about market trends, cutting-edge technologies, and best practices from industry experts.
Register and secure your Critical IT infrastructure

PCNS Configuration Question & Issues

APC UPS Data Center & Enterprise Solutions Forum

Schneider, APC support forum to share knowledge about installation and configuration for Data Center and Business Power UPSs, Accessories, Software, Services.

cancel
Turn on suggestions
Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type.
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
  • Home
  • Schneider Electric Community
  • APC UPS, Critical Power, Cooling and Racks
  • APC UPS Data Center & Enterprise Solutions Forum
  • PCNS Configuration Question & Issues
Options
  • Subscribe to RSS Feed
  • Mark Topic as New
  • Mark Topic as Read
  • Float this Topic for Current User
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Printer Friendly Page
Invite a Co-worker
Send a co-worker an invite to the portal.Just enter their email address and we'll connect them to register. After joining, they will belong to the same company.
You have entered an invalid email address. Please re-enter the email address.
This co-worker has already been invited to the Exchange portal. Please invite another co-worker.
Please enter email address
Send Invite Cancel
Invitation Sent
Your invitation was sent.Thanks for sharing Exchange with your co-worker.
Send New Invite Close
Top Experts
User Count
BillP
Administrator BillP Administrator
5060
voidstar_apc
Janeway voidstar_apc
196
Erasmus_apc
Sisko Erasmus_apc
112
TheNotoriousKMP_apc
Sisko TheNotoriousKMP_apc
108
View All

Invite a Colleague

Found this content useful? Share it with a Colleague!

Invite a Colleague Invite
Back to APC UPS Data Center & Enterprise Solutions Forum
cresch
cresch
Cadet

Posted: ‎2023-12-09 11:20 AM

0 Likes
1
453
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Subscribe to RSS Feed
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

Posted: ‎2023-12-09 11:20 AM

PCNS Configuration Question & Issues

I deployed the PCNS appliance (new v5 licensed version), added my (2) hosts supported by the UPS, etc. and all looked good.

 

The shutdown parameters were showing as follows:

Low battery duration currently set to 20 mins
Shutdown delay FOR NOW set for 240 secs (4 mins). 
Maximum required delay currently set to 14 mins (based on VM shutdown times selected, I believe)

 

I then performed a shutdown test by cutting the power to the UPS.  Unit was showing 30 min runtime at start of testing.

 

Approximately 10 mins later, UPS was reporting low battery with 20 mins remaining (which would match with configuration I set).

 

Although I can't find anywhere to see the log or see what's being triggered (maybe there are PCNS logs somewhere I could see?), I noticed the VMs were instructed to shutdown on the hosts, and did so...with the exception of the PCNS VM (on one host) and the VCSA (on the other host).  

 

At some point after, host 1 with the PCNS appliance shutdown completely.  However, host 2 with the VCSA not only remaining running, but the VCSA was still running as well (so it wasn't shutdown).

 

For testing purposes for full power-on from off, I went ahead and shutdown the vCenter and then the host manually, and then turned off the UPS load manually for force complete power off for all attached equipment.

 

After a minute or two, I turned the UPS load back on.  SAN equipment powered on as expected, following by hosts after 5 mins (since PDU includes a 5-min delay to allow SAN/storage to come online before hosts attempt to access).  However, at some point, both hosts then powered themselves off, and remaining that way until I manually powered them back on.

 

As a result of the testing, I have several questions and issues about the actual & expected operation using PCNS in the environment:

1. Do I need a PCNS appliance deployed to each host that that the vcenter is local to the PCNS appliance and it will properly shutdown the VCSA first before itself? (or maybe some misconfiguration that caused the behavior I saw)

2. I'm guessing that the hosts powered OFF after the restart possibly due to the PCNS maybe coming online and then completing pending tasks or something?  (otherwise, no idea why the hosts would have shutdown again after initial boot). Again, any log files I can review for the PCNS-triggered actions would be helpful.

3. After manual power on of the hosts, no VMs automatically powered on.  This is somewhat expected in an since the built-in power-on settings aren't officially supported in an HA environment.   However, since this obviously then requires manual intervention, I'm wonder if anyone has found a way to use startup scripts or such to force the VCSA and/or other key VMs to start up when an HA environment is powered on from hard down.

 

As compared to a hard crash prior to having PCNS, most of the VMs were shutdown safely, but now it's a much more involved startup process to get the environment operation again (vs when they hard-crashed, the HA components kicked in when the hosts restarted and they automatically attempted to restart most guest VMs), so just wondering what I'm missing to help make this a complete solution.

 

 

If anyone can provide insight as to expected operation, configuration issues, log files, or start-up scripting related to the above observations, I would greatly appreciate it.

 

 

Reply

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

  • All forum topics
  • Previous Topic
  • Next Topic
Reply 1
BillP
Administrator BillP Administrator
Administrator

Posted: ‎2023-12-11 12:01 PM

0 Likes
0
446
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Subscribe to RSS Feed
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

Posted: ‎2023-12-11 12:01 PM

@cresch 

 

I recommend you watch our Youtube video. How to install and configure PowerChute Network Shutdown for VMware.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzsDuV3oMxc

 

Questions:

1- No

2 - The shutdown process had not completed so when PowerChute was restarted it completed the tasks. The reason the host did not power off was because there was a VM still running. 

3 - PowerChute can be configured to restart all VMs it powers off. See the video. 

 

All logs are store in /opt/APC/PowerChute/group1. See Schneider Electric FAQ FA241061

Or read the User's Guide. 

 

Reply

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

Preview Exit Preview

never-displayed

You must be signed in to add attachments

never-displayed

 
To The Top!

Forums

  • APC UPS Data Center Backup Solutions
  • EcoStruxure IT
  • EcoStruxure Geo SCADA Expert
  • Metering & Power Quality
  • Schneider Electric Wiser

Knowledge Center

Events & webinars

Ideas

Blogs

Get Started

  • Ask the Community
  • Community Guidelines
  • Community User Guide
  • How-To & Best Practice
  • Experts Leaderboard
  • Contact Support
Brand-Logo
Subscribing is a smart move!
You can subscribe to this board after you log in or create your free account.
Forum-Icon

Create your free account or log in to subscribe to the board - and gain access to more than 10,000+ support articles along with insights from experts and peers.

Register today for FREE

Register Now

Already have an account? Login

Terms & Conditions Privacy Notice Change your Cookie Settings © 2025 Schneider Electric

This is a heading

With achievable small steps, users progress and continually feel satisfaction in task accomplishment.

Usetiful Onboarding Checklist remembers the progress of every user, allowing them to take bite-sized journeys and continue where they left.

of