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Posted: ‎2021-03-23 07:04 AM . Last Modified: ‎2024-07-14 11:47 PM

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‎2021-03-23 07:04 AM

[WHISHLIST] Spacelynk & Wiser for KNX

Hello,

I start this Topic with Option that are missing on SL and HL, I'd like to have.

 

Feel free to add yours too !

 

1/ Multiplicator option for KNX variable (for example counter which need x1000 or / 1000 or something else...)

 

2/ Aple Homekit Support like 1home, Thinka or xxxter, Abb voicecontrol... in the W4K product. Rich Customer use Apple environment most often. And now, it's a more and more wish they ask me.

 

3/ Energy app, I created mine with script, which generate pages, variable... from modbus device but would be great to be able to have a script for it offical (and that we can modify). Maybe in Touch3...

 

4/ enhance alert app (use variable checkbox on Knx object, and maybe the tag... to generate personnal email or different log with comment field...)

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Posted: ‎2021-03-23 07:59 AM

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‎2021-03-23 07:59 AM

1) I don't see why you want to manipulate a native KNX value, for modbus profiles you can add the field ["value_multiplier": 0.001,]

2) Under investigation by R&D

3) You can build any plan or widget once and export it for usage in your next visu, why create it by script?

4) Already possible, create a script to a TAG and use this to generate the dynamic alert:

 

if event.getvalue() == true then
alert('Error in ' .. grp.find(event.dst).name .. ' with value ' .. tostring(event.getvalue()))
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Posted: ‎2021-03-23 08:19 AM

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‎2021-03-23 08:19 AM

1/ sometimes there is need to do rules to make offset. But In my case, I had a Ventilation KNX product (CTA-CAREL-PCoS00kxb0) that is sending value with *10. 45000m3/h instead of 4500. I needed to put it in new object...

Also some other Counter, sometimes customer want it in KW/H and sometimes in W/H. So need to edit the modbus json file... I had several case like this. It's not a big deal, but would be appreciate (or at least to do it by script)

I made one but sometimes CPU usage start to be more than 1

 

-- object mapped to this event must have its data type set
value = event.getvalue()
--log(value)
value=value/10
adress=event.dst

script.disable('CTA-R4-debit-Intro-div')
grp.update(adress, value)
sleep(1)
script.enable('CTA-R4-debit-Intro-div')

 

2/ ok

 

3/ I use to have project with more than 100 powertag for example. I  have a script where i put modbus adress, description, Category, ip adress of modbus ip gateway, json file.

Then it generate the modbus device, it create the objects, it create the category object for total, the trend, the total script calculation, and the plan. One plan for category view, and every plan for each category with detailed counter view (index, description, voltage) and a little curve at the bottom with all multiple trend of the category...

It's great and easy to reproduce

 

4/ It's already what I did, but would be great to have a check box alert, another one email, and use comment field for the description it generate. Best to have also alert category... Just idea because I new it was planned by Schneider commercial.

 

 

 

5/ A new wishlist also is a way to be abble ti use Widget from Touch in PC/Tablet view. Like for widget in the listbox we choose a home made widget, maybe the possibility to select a touch3 room...

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Posted: ‎2021-03-23 08:27 AM

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‎2021-03-23 08:27 AM

I also insist on the Apple Homekit support.

 

More and more of my Residential customer don't want Wiser for KNX anymore (only if they want Ipad on the wall with 3D view of their home).

 

They ask me to have it nativ on IOS or use with appletv, carplay, homepod and Ipad.

 

All is setup once then they are independant to create scene, IA... add IOT device...

 

Spacelynk is great for my Professional project, but I m afraid that the Wiser become useless soon.

 

Alexa and google are more often for geek. Rich customer use 99% time IOS.

 

Add an App with SIRI/homekit would be so great !! Siri Shortcut don't are enough

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Posted: ‎2021-03-23 08:48 AM

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‎2021-03-23 08:48 AM

1) I would never write the value to the same object but always use a new (virtual) object for this

 

decoded = string.split(event.dst, '/')

grp.checkwrite('31/1/' .. decoded[3], event.getvalue() / 1000) 

 

4) Hmm, strange, i developed the alert manager and have not commited to this to any commercial.. Alerts are already kind of catagorized by the script name they come from and you can filter on that in the alert manager..

 

5) I asked for this a long time ago but technical not possible as the apps ar running in a total different engine

 

For homekit, we have Alexa now, Google Assistent is comming soon and after that we look into homekit, keep in mind that is not commited yet, we have to wait on R&D's findings on how and if this can be done

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Posted: ‎2021-03-23 10:28 AM

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‎2021-03-23 10:28 AM


@Erwin-vd-Zwart wrote:

1) I would never write the value to the same object but always use a new (virtual) object for this

 

decoded = string.split(event.dst, '/')

grp.checkwrite('31/1/' .. decoded[3], event.getvalue() / 1000) 

 

4) Hmm, strange, i developed the alert manager and have not commited to this to any commercial.. Alerts are already kind of catagorized by the script name they come from and you can filter on that in the alert manager..

 

5) I asked for this a long time ago but technical not possible as the apps ar running in a total different engine

 

For homekit, we have Alexa now, Google Assistent is comming soon and after that we look into homekit, keep in mind that is not commited yet, we have to wait on R&D's findings on how and if this can be done


1/ I know but i was very lazy when I did it, I changed it after. I was meaning that it would be cool to be able to intercpt value before event.getvalue()

for example event.rewritevalue(value)

 

4/

just idea because I new it was planned by Schneider commercial.


sorry my mistake,

it is the energy app that was discussed

 

 

5/ so many did it like Abb, xxter pairot, thinka, even hager, so it should be possible, even with homebridge temp solution

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Posted: ‎2021-05-23 02:15 PM

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‎2021-05-23 02:15 PM

2) I also urge you to speed up Homekit support, Google would also need to get started now.
Customers are becoming more and more accustomed to being able to make their own scenes, schedules and sequences, much easier and faster than in Wiser for knx.

 

6) The app for Wiser for knx also needs a BIG lift for faster entrance to the touch app or pc/tablet. Now its to many clicks and its not user friendly compared to other apps and platforms. 

Its harder to argument for Wiser for knxs price when the user platform is too complicated for a user compared to the competitions. 

 

7) A Zigbee gateway built into wiser for knx whould be needed so we can control the zigbee Wiser dimmers and sensors with a knx system. Maybe also with this app read powertags directly in wiser for knx without a energy gateway. Lesser gateways more cost efficiency 🙂

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Posted: ‎2021-10-29 04:25 PM

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‎2021-10-29 04:25 PM

re wiser for knx too many clicks

 

I live in Australia so we have CBus Wiser SHAC/NAC which are similar to the Wiser for KNX/spaceLYnk/fellerLYnk. Clipsal don't supply an app for the Wiser over here so I ended top writing one for iOS/iPadOS (cut down version on Android). Basically its a Web browser with Specific Wiser functionality eg enter username in setting so you don't have to enter each time you open the app, full screen view  with option to control if status bar is show, Set default page per iPad/iphone (also can be different depending on orientation.

for more info go to www.crowhurst.com.au

 

re homekit

 

I use a raspberry pi (cheap) running homebridge with a Cbus plugin, this opens the CBus network to homekit and work very well. home bridge have a KNX plugin that people on the LM forum discuss and it appears to work in the same way as the CBus module.

 

 

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Posted: ‎2022-02-24 12:49 AM

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‎2022-02-24 12:49 AM

Silvercrest and lidl can do a 20€ homekit compatible box but not us ?

 

 

homekit.jpg

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