KNX - INTERCOM INTEGRATION WITH U.motion Client Touch 7, Version 2 (MTN6260-0307)

[ASSSIG-Maroc]

We are working on a BMS/CONFORT solution.
For the confort part, we have selected a solution based on SpacLynk controllers and various KNX modules as the U.motion Client Touch 7. The solution is for 169 appartments

The client is now asking us to provide four intercom street panels that can communicate in KNX with the U MOTION and allow the entrance doors to be opened remotely or not.

Has anyone encountered this before and have a solution?

[Thomas_Rohde]

Hello ASSSIG-Maroc!

Wellcome to this forum!

To "...as the U.motion Client Touch 7"
Does this mean that the project already exists within this product constellation and the customer is now asking for outdoorstations?
Or are you planning to realize a project with the U.motion Client Touch 7"?
Because this TouchPanel is phased out since end of Dec 2021.
So, please help me to understand better your current situation.

[ASSSIG-Maroc]

Hello Thomas,

I wish you a happy new year 2023, thank you for your answer !!!

In fact, this is a new project which we hope to have studied in 2023 for completion at the end of the year. 
We have made a first offer for the home automation of more than 100 luxury apartments in a tower. 
For this we have quoted a system around the KNX solution with an LSS100200 controller per apartment and 
the various modules such as the DALI gates and various actuators. 
We have also planned a 7" U-Motion per apartment to control everything. 
Our client recently asked us to provide intercom panels at the entrances to the tower, he wants 
them to be in KNX and to be able to communicate with the U-Motions in each apartment to allow residents 
to communicate and open the door through the intercom panels.

[Thomas_Rohde]

Hello ASSSIG-Maroc,

I wish to you a happy new year also! 😊

Regarding to your explainations:
To "We have also planned a 7" U-Motion per apartment to control everything."
As mentioned above, please have in mind that the 7" U-Motion-TP is no longer part of our offer.
Means you need in any case to adapt/update your offer which you did towards your customer.

We have a kind of follow up product which is our SpaceLogic KNX Touch IP 7 inch Smart Screen Black MTN6260-7760 which is also available in white MTN6260-7770.
https://www.se.com/ww/en/product/MTN6260-7760/spacelogic-knx-touch-ip-7-inch-smart-screen-black/ 

But please be aware that the general approach of this device has changed in the way that the new one doesnt offer to run other apps.
It is dedicated to our W4K/sL and can only show the dedicated visu.
Means no support of doorentry-functionality at all which is required in your project.

I would recommend to check out the attached application note where we show a cowork with the company 2N.
They have a dedicated indoor panel which can handle at the same time the building control part as well as the doorentry part.

[ASSSIG-Maroc]

Hello,

Just to give you a feedback on the subject, we approached the people of 2N to discuss the work done with 
our solution.
In fact, on one of their screens, they have integrated WISER, which makes it possible to manage the confort part.
The intercom part coexists on the touch screen and appears when there is a call. When the call ends, the screen 
returns to WISER.
So to sum up, We can't use the U-MOTION touch screens, We have to buy their screen which makes WISER and the 
intercom part coexist
Regards

[Thomas_Rohde]

Hello ASSSIG-Maroc,
Many THANKS for your feedback! 

To "The intercom part coexists on the touch screen and appears when there is a call. When the call ends, the screen returns to WISER." I think this was exactly the customer requirement.
To "So to sum up, We can't use the U-MOTION touch screens, We have to buy their screen which makes WISER and the intercom part coexist"
Yes this is correct but as I mentioned "U-MOTION touch screens" are phased out anyway. So it was never a real option for you.

Again, many thanks for your feedback
Wish to you a great weekend 😉