Ability to Advance or Delay the schedule

[tbug]

For all its merits, I think there is a feature missing from the Wiser software that would massively improve its usability.  Which is to have the ability to advance or delay the schedule for all rooms.

Examples:

1.  - I’m up earlier than usual in the morning and need the various morning rooms to come on earlier than usual, without having to manually go into each room setting and override.
2.  - I’m going to be late home from work and need to delay the time that the various evening rooms come up to heat.
3.  - I’m getting home early...
4.  - I’m staying up later in the evening than usual and need to delay when the overnight settings kick in.
5.  - I’m going to bed early...

etc.  etc. You get the picture.  All very common use cases.  

I find it very tedious to have to go into the app and override several rooms in these situations. With the more basic central smart thermostats, this is easily achieved by just raising or lowering the central thermostat temperature.  Individual room schedules are obviously a much better solution overall, but they do make it harder to override the schedule.  Yes, we can create Moments to achieve the same thing, but you would need so many Moments to cover all of the various eventualities and would need to keep these in sync with any changes to the scheduled temperatures.

I have a software background, so I feel this should be relatively straightforward to implement.  So I’m looking for some thumbs up for this suggestion, so that we can put it to Schneider as a proposed enhancement if it gets enough support.

[BrianT58]

I believe the current thought process is that it's not very "Green" to advance all when you would  then potentially be heating rooms that aren't being used. I would like to have the option though. I have two moments set up one to boost downstairs and one to boost upstairs, It's not perfect but it does work for me.

[tbug]

Just to clarify, the idea would be to modify the effective time for the system, i.e. the effective time = the actual time plus or minus any advance or delay requested.  So, if just the bedroom, bathroom and kitchen are due to come on at 7, but you are up early at 6, you would advance the schedule by an hour, so that the effective system time would be 6 and just those radiators would then come on.  You would then cancel the override when required.

[samwardill]

I support this feature but I would just suggest to add it to the existing Room boost page. You could have an option to advance the Room (or group of Rooms) to the next setting (which might be an increased or decreased temp).

You also ought to be able to create an Automation to do this.

[helveticar]

Just registered because I'm looking for exactly the same.

I have the Wiser system for a couple months and like it a lot. I got 2 smart TRVs and I'm thinking to add more. But I have 2 evening schedules: one to heat up the lounge and then the bedroom just before we go to bed, and the other one to not turn on the heating at all, in case we put some wood in the fireplace. I have to manually lower the target temps of all TRVs (and re-do that later in the evening when the next schedule point kicks in) to avoid that the heating goes on. I can't even think of a different way to do this, and if I had more TRVs that would be an incredibly annoying hassle.

So basically, a feature like this or some reasonable solution is what keeps me from fitting all rooms with smart TRVs.

Have you (or anyone else) found a solution for this?

[DrJohnM]

This is a great idea, however, I think it could to be a bit smarter. IMHO, it would be good to add tags to specific time-slots, like "night-time-schedule" or "evening-schedule" or "morning-schedule" etc as just advancing all schedules may move (say) the conservatory schedule that may already shut down into its nigh time setting earlier to its morning schedule. So the command would then be "advance to night-time-schedule" and everything would advance to that specific time schedule or... delay "evening-schedule by 2 hours" or "advance morning-schedule by 1 hour" (could be set the night before if getting up earlier")

[tbug]

@helveticar  If I understand you correctly, I think you could set up a number of Moments, e.g. Evening (with fire), Evening (without fire).  Not a perfect solution, but it does avoid having to manually change each TRV.

[helveticar]

@tbug Hm, I'll have to have a look then into the Moments feature. To be honest so far just set up a schedule and that's it, haven't played around with it much, but it sounds like a better solution than as you say manually change them all.

@DrJohnM Agree, just a simple "delay schedules by 1h" would be awesome for so many reasons, whether it's a lie in, a long day at work, my fireplace doing the job... really hope we could get something like this.

How's the feature development by Schneider, does the app sometimes get updates or is it crickets? As I said just got into Wiser a month ago.

[Fozzie1960]

Also, it would be helpful to have the option to assign 'Comfort Mode' on a per-room basis rather than globally. This feature would allow for more personalised and efficient control over individual room settings.

[DrJohnM]

Actually, this is a very timely comment. We have a day and night rate electricity setup.and and we have a room that uses a wiser stat in conjunction with a electric switch. I set the house to comfort mode for the first time yesterday but then of course, that room also started to demand early using the high rate electricity. It would be good to disable that room from the comfort setting. 

[David_SE · Accepted solution]

Hello @All,

Thank you for your comments, your experiences and your ideas for improvement. The best practice is of course to make programmes with the shortest possible periods and give priority to "boost" when you're out of these periods. When we work on improving the moments / automatisms we'll take these elements into consideration.