Help
  • Explore Community
  • Get Started
  • Ask the Community
  • How-To & Best Practices
  • Contact Support
Notifications
Login / Register
Community
Community
Notifications
close
  • Forums
  • Knowledge Center
  • Events & Webinars
  • Ideas
  • Blogs
Help
Help
  • Explore Community
  • Get Started
  • Ask the Community
  • How-To & Best Practices
  • Contact Support
Login / Register
Sustainability
Sustainability

Join our "Ask Me About" community webinar on May 20th at 9 AM CET and 5 PM CET to explore cybersecurity and monitoring for Data Center and edge IT. Learn about market trends, cutting-edge technologies, and best practices from industry experts.
Register and secure your Critical IT infrastructure

P139 - IEC61850 CILO Logical Node

Protection & Control

Schneider Electric support forum about Protection Relays, Substation Controllers & RTUs, Arc Flash Devices & Systems in Medium Voltage and Low Voltage. A place to get support on product selection, installation, commissioning and troubleshooting.

cancel
Turn on suggestions
Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type.
Showing results for 
Show  only  | Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
  • Home
  • Schneider Electric Community
  • EcoStruxure Power & Grid
  • Protection & Control
  • P139 - IEC61850 CILO Logical Node
Options
  • Mark Topic as New
  • Mark Topic as Read
  • Float this Topic for Current User
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Printer Friendly Page
Invite a Co-worker
Send a co-worker an invite to the portal.Just enter their email address and we'll connect them to register. After joining, they will belong to the same company.
You have entered an invalid email address. Please re-enter the email address.
This co-worker has already been invited to the Exchange portal. Please invite another co-worker.
Please enter email address
Send Invite Cancel
Invitation Sent
Your invitation was sent.Thanks for sharing Exchange with your co-worker.
Send New Invite Close
Top Experts
User Count
Araceli_Monje
Lt. Commander Araceli_Monje Lt. Commander
22
HenriGRASSET
Captain HenriGRASSET Captain
14
Rudolf_Simon
Commander Rudolf_Simon Commander
13
View All
Related Products
product field
PowerLogic
Easergy MiCOM Px30 Series

Invite a Colleague

Found this content useful? Share it with a Colleague!

Invite a Colleague Invite
Solved Go to Solution
Back to Protection & Control
Solved
ManuelTrebilcock
Lieutenant JG ManuelTrebilcock Lieutenant JG
Lieutenant JG

Posted: ‎2021-09-20 08:45 PM . Last Modified: ‎2023-05-30 10:02 PM

0 Likes
5
1386
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

‎2021-09-20 08:45 PM

P139 - IEC61850 CILO Logical Node

Hello everyone,

 

I want to use the CILO logical nodes to map the interlock status of the devices configured on a P139 FW671 but it's not working. I am using a customized Bay and IED scout to simulate the client. I also tried to use the BlkOpn and BlkCls data objects from the logical node of the respective device but, it didn't work either. I don´t know if there is any trick to make it work. I am using the interlocks of each device located on the control directory as you can see in the attachment.  

 

I'd really appreciate your help since we are on FAT tests and the client is requiring to send the status of the interlocks using this logical nodes.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Manuel

  • Thumbnail of Easergy MiCOM Px30 Series
    PowerLogic
    Easergy MiCOM Px30 Series
View products (1)
Attachments
Labels
  • Labels:
  • Application cases
Tags (1)
  • Tags:
  • english
Reply
  • All forum topics
  • Previous Topic
  • Next Topic

Accepted Solutions
AndreMelo
Commander AndreMelo Commander
Commander

Posted: ‎2021-09-20 11:00 PM

0 Likes
4
1381
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

‎2021-09-20 11:00 PM

Hi @ManuelTrebilcock 

 

There are few things to check, according to the manual, in the new firmware versions the ILOCK had suffered some changes, it was before always enable, now it was added the 250 102 parameters to enable it or not. In addition to that, the ILOCK was before checked just when the relay received the command (which was an issue to report it via protocol) now you can configure the cycling check period in the parameter 221 104. 

 

To summarize it is a combination of parameters on section 3.50 of the manual you can find a Block diagram explaining the whole work principle. (I attached it for you) Please take a look at that cause there are important details.

 

ILOCK P139.PNG

See Answer In Context

Attachments
Tags (1)
  • Tags:
  • english
Reply
Replies 5
AndreMelo
Commander AndreMelo Commander
Commander

Posted: ‎2021-09-20 11:00 PM

0 Likes
4
1382
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

‎2021-09-20 11:00 PM

Hi @ManuelTrebilcock 

 

There are few things to check, according to the manual, in the new firmware versions the ILOCK had suffered some changes, it was before always enable, now it was added the 250 102 parameters to enable it or not. In addition to that, the ILOCK was before checked just when the relay received the command (which was an issue to report it via protocol) now you can configure the cycling check period in the parameter 221 104. 

 

To summarize it is a combination of parameters on section 3.50 of the manual you can find a Block diagram explaining the whole work principle. (I attached it for you) Please take a look at that cause there are important details.

 

ILOCK P139.PNG

Attachments
Tags (1)
  • Tags:
  • english
Reply
ManuelTrebilcock
Lieutenant JG ManuelTrebilcock Lieutenant JG
Lieutenant JG

Posted: ‎2021-09-21 06:05 PM

0 Likes
3
1370
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

‎2021-09-21 06:05 PM

Thank you very much Andre. It was a matter of just changing the cycle time interlocking check parameter as you mentioned.

Tags (1)
  • Tags:
  • english
Reply
Michael_H
Lieutenant Michael_H Lieutenant
Lieutenant

Posted: ‎2021-09-22 12:03 AM

1 Like
2
1365
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

‎2021-09-22 12:03 AM

Fine to hear that your application is working now. Thank you, Andre.

 

With reference to parameter 221.104 ILOCK cycle time. In its default setting, the cycle time is blocked, meaning that the interlock equation outputs are refreshed once one of the inputs to the equations changed (event triggered mode). As soon as the cycle time is configured with any value, the calculation mode changes to cyclic, performing with the set operation period.

 

Please note that XCBR.BlkCls and XCBR.BlkOpn have nothing to do with interlocking. These signals neither reflect nor influence the interlocking status. These signals represent the blocking of XCBR for switchgear technical reasons (gas pressure below the limit, e.g.). These signals can also be forced by the operator to deliberately block a switchgear from being operated. On the other hand, the operation capability ("spring charged", e.g.) is not mapped to these signals, since a temporary reduced operation capability while the drive is being recharged to full capacity is not a reason for blocking; this occurs operationally.

Tags (1)
  • Tags:
  • english
Reply
ManuelTrebilcock
Lieutenant JG ManuelTrebilcock Lieutenant JG
Lieutenant JG

Posted: ‎2021-10-11 08:30 PM

0 Likes
1
1352
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

‎2021-10-11 08:30 PM

Hi @Michael_H ,

 

Just for curiosity, how can you force the XCBR.BlkCls and XCBR.BlkOpn signals? 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Manuel Trebilcock

Tags (1)
  • Tags:
  • english
Reply
Michael_H
Lieutenant Michael_H Lieutenant
Lieutenant

Posted: ‎2021-10-12 11:33 PM

0 Likes
0
1347
  • Mark as New
  • Bookmark
  • Subscribe
  • Mute
  • Permalink
  • Print
  • Email to a Friend
  • Report Inappropriate Content

Link copied. Please paste this link to share this article on your social media post.

‎2021-10-12 11:33 PM

Hi Manuel,

 

From the standard, 'BlkCls' and 'BlkOpn' are controllable objects. So, an operator can send commands to set / reset them as wanted. A configuration parameter 'ctlModel' i.e. "control model", defines how to access them using IEC 61850-7-2 services. You would typically use a "direct-with-normal-security" control service.

 

In MiCOM P30 these signals are also implemented as controllable objects (as defined in the standard), but the s/c control model for each of them, is set to "status-only", meaning that control is not supported by the device firmware. For the time being, 'BlkCls' and 'BlkOpn' are  status signals only.

 

 

Best regards,

Michael

Tags (1)
  • Tags:
  • english
Reply
Preview Exit Preview

never-displayed

You must be signed in to add attachments

never-displayed

 
To The Top!

Forums

  • APC UPS Data Center Backup Solutions
  • EcoStruxure IT
  • EcoStruxure Geo SCADA Expert
  • Metering & Power Quality
  • Schneider Electric Wiser

Knowledge Center

Events & webinars

Ideas

Blogs

Get Started

  • Ask the Community
  • Community Guidelines
  • Community User Guide
  • How-To & Best Practice
  • Experts Leaderboard
  • Contact Support
Brand-Logo
Subscribing is a smart move!
You can subscribe to this board after you log in or create your free account.
Forum-Icon

Create your free account or log in to subscribe to the board - and gain access to more than 10,000+ support articles along with insights from experts and peers.

Register today for FREE

Register Now

Already have an account? Login

Terms & Conditions Privacy Notice Change your Cookie Settings © 2025 Schneider Electric

This is a heading

With achievable small steps, users progress and continually feel satisfaction in task accomplishment.

Usetiful Onboarding Checklist remembers the progress of every user, allowing them to take bite-sized journeys and continue where they left.

of