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Posted: ‎2025-09-23 11:50 PM

Overload and Overcurrent - the debate

Hello,

 

if there are any engineers in here, especially from Schneider, can some please settle and argument I had with my instructors today: I said that thermal overload and magnetic overcurrent are the protections within a CB, however they said it is thermal overcurrent and magnetic overload.

 

I said that overload is heat I.e. thermal caused by slower excessive current (motor stalls, high loads) that generates the excessive heat, whereas the magnetic overcurrent is for shortcut and/or high inrush currents caused by faults, shorts etc. My instructors argue that the opposite is in effect what happens.

 

 What is it?

 

Kind regards,

 

Dave

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Posted: ‎2025-10-02 01:47 AM

Hello @Dave47, 

 

I will try to make it simple as possible and take the example of Miniature Circuit Breaker (this is a bit different for industrial circuit breakers).

 

A MCB has 2 kind of protections:

  • Thermal (low overcurrent)
  • Magnetic (high or very high overcurrent and short circuits)

Let's take a 16 Amps C curve MCB:

  • 16 = Nominal Current (In)
  • C curve = 5x to 10x In
  • Breaking Capacity = 10 kA (Icu) = Max possible current that a breaker can handle during a short circuit. Ensure that installation cannot be damaged after the breaker trip.

Thermal protection is dedicated to small overcurrents (cable heat up):

  • When your current flowing through your circuit breaker is more than In.
  • If your current is 20 A (1,3x In) => MCB will trip after 1 hour
  • If your current is 32 A (2x In) => MCB will trip after 10 sec

Magnetic protection is dedicated to high overcurrents :

  • Related to the electromagnet part inside a MCB
  • Will depend on the B, C or D curve
  • C curve = instant trip when current is 5x to 10x In
  • During a short circuit (some kA)

This is more a story of current quantity / variation inside your circuit breaker. For me overcurrent and overload are similar.

 

Regards, 

 

Romain POLETTE
Solution Architect - France Operations

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Posted: ‎2025-10-02 01:47 AM

Hello @Dave47, 

 

I will try to make it simple as possible and take the example of Miniature Circuit Breaker (this is a bit different for industrial circuit breakers).

 

A MCB has 2 kind of protections:

  • Thermal (low overcurrent)
  • Magnetic (high or very high overcurrent and short circuits)

Let's take a 16 Amps C curve MCB:

  • 16 = Nominal Current (In)
  • C curve = 5x to 10x In
  • Breaking Capacity = 10 kA (Icu) = Max possible current that a breaker can handle during a short circuit. Ensure that installation cannot be damaged after the breaker trip.

Thermal protection is dedicated to small overcurrents (cable heat up):

  • When your current flowing through your circuit breaker is more than In.
  • If your current is 20 A (1,3x In) => MCB will trip after 1 hour
  • If your current is 32 A (2x In) => MCB will trip after 10 sec

Magnetic protection is dedicated to high overcurrents :

  • Related to the electromagnet part inside a MCB
  • Will depend on the B, C or D curve
  • C curve = instant trip when current is 5x to 10x In
  • During a short circuit (some kA)

This is more a story of current quantity / variation inside your circuit breaker. For me overcurrent and overload are similar.

 

Regards, 

 

Romain POLETTE
Solution Architect - France Operations
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