What is the difference between PAS600L and PAS800L?

[Derrick_User]

Both units have webserver built in. I would like to know what the difference on the webpages based on the dashboard. What is the pro and cons between the hardware and the webserver? 

[Thierry_Baudard · Accepted solution]

The main differences are:

- the size of the datalogger (typically 1 month of measurements on PAS600L / 3 years of measurements  on PAS800L)

- the trend tab to be able to view the recorded values (available in PAS800L but not in PAS600L)

- the possibility of connecting an external 802.15.4 antenna for wireless communication of SE products

Some other differences are relative to  the current firmware version and are planned in the roadmap to be removed

 - csv publication on SFTP server (only possible on PAS800L today)

 - email notification (only possible on PAS800L today)

[Guillaume_Evrard]

Hello,

Would prefer to say that PAS800 is an energy server with capability to log data and display or  export logged data.

PAS600 is much more a gateway ( cloud gateway as example) with data retention in case of communication issues. When data are pushed, they are deleted from the memory.

If we can compare PAS and COMX ( which is not the case), PAS600 ~ COMX210 and PAS800 ~ COMX510.

[Derrick_User]

Hi Thierry,

What will be the pro and con for the built in webserver? Is there any difference?

[Guillaume_Evrard]

hello,

I do not kbnow what you call the built in webserver, in term of Configuration pages no difference, but normally PAS800 shall be able to replace 510 which has the capability to build embeded web dashboard to display data which is not available today with 1.5 for PAS.

If you want modbus gateway => no difference

If you want a cloud gateway => no difference, prefer PAS600

If you need local energy server or the ability to push csv to SFTP yopu have to use PAS800

If you need PoE => you have to make a choice

[Derrick_User]

I am referring to the built in GUI if i choose to use the PAS600L or PAS800L locally instead of cloud base like facility expert or energy hub.

[Thierry_Baudard]

Hi Derrick,

If the need is to use a Panel Server in standalone mode without BMS, SCADA or advisor (FE, Energy Hub), I advise you to use PAS800.

PAS600 web page offer the possibility to view ONLY real time measurement

PAS800 web page offer the possibility to view real time measurement +TRENDS (recorded value)

Your previous screenshot was an example of real time measurement in PAS600.

I add bellow a screenshot  of trend from PAS800

[Derrick_User]

Hi Thierry,

Thanks for the explanation.

I have a question on the dashboard that i saw it on the website.

I cannot see the equipment, notification and team at your image that you attached to me previously.

[TecnoEmanuele]

a question, if I have 2 PAS600 and I insert a PAS800 can I use the "trand" function also for the devices connected to the two PAS600? thanks

[Guillaume_Evrard · Accepted solution]

hello @TecnoEmanuele 

As soon as devices are added in PAS800 (using virtual ID from PAS600) and data logging or sampling is configured on PAS800 you will be able to use the historical data (datalogger).

When one PAS is having devices connected on a another PAS this PAS is called the Child gateway

Kind Regards

[TecnoEmanuele]

thanks for the information. then I will proceed with the purchase. in case of problems with the configuration I will come back to you. 😉
thanks

[Alexander_Remteks]

Hi, my question is like addendum to mentioned above information. I need to receive data from 22 electrical meters (plans to use SE MID models with ModBus RTU), connect them to PAS800 directly. Also I need info from 66 MBus counters (Hot, Cold water, Heat Energy). For it will be MBus to ModBus IP other brand converter used.

So question - how many values can be stored in PAS800? Will be enough for me 1 pcs PAS800 or I need 2 pcs? How many devices can be connected to one PAS800 like a child (PAS600/400, MBus converters, etc.)? Value storage time (I saw somewhere 3 years but for what? (device/values/sample rates periods).

Hope my question is clear.

BR,

Alexander

[Guillaume_Evrard]

Hello @Alexander_Remteks,

This is mentioned in the release note.

Example in 2.0  128 modbus tcp devices, 32 serial modbus,... 5000 data points max and a flow of 500 points per minute ( I would prefer to say if you log every 2 minutes you can log 1000 data points).

When you reach the max capacity in sampling you will get a warning 

Regarding data storage it is up to 3 years with PAS800 but depends on the number of data stored and sampling rate. This is rolling storage.

Kind Regards