Panel Server with Modicon TM3

[AndersDahlskog]

Hi

When in need of additional I/O s TM3 is a presented solution in global ppt s, see attached file. Is here a Modbus RS485/Modbus TCP driver made for this purpose in Panel Server Universal, Panel Server Advanced ?

Questions from customer is to handle WAGES, the Com´X had more I/O s "onboard"

B/R Anders

[Thierry_Baudard · Accepted solution]

Hello Anders,

The way to know if a native model is supported by Panel Server is to refer to the the release note of the Panel Server (PAS600 : ref DOCA0178EN-05 / PAS800: ref DOCA0248EN-02) § Supported devices/Modbus serial Devices (Note also that  release note are updated for each new fw version... so  take care to use the last one).

Obvisoulsy, there is currently with FW1.4 no native modele for TM3.

I Advise to prefer SmartLink Modbus ref A9XMSB11 (instead TM3) because the integration is in progress and must be available with limited feature in next fw 1.5. it will be possible:

  - To commission with EPC Destkop (and not with web page)

  - To follow comsumption of pulse meter in web page

  - To collect Data with a Modbus TCP/IP client such as PME (Collect data with a SE advisor  such as FE in a next other future version but not available in the next one)

BR

[Guillaume_Evrard]

Hello @Thierry_Baudard ,

Can you provide full details on the way to connect PT100/PT1000 / 0-10V/4-20mA using TM3 to PAS ?

Seems we need to use TM3 thermistance module + TM3 modbus coupler which is not so easy/straightforward as the 2 analog inputs on COMX....

Thanking in advance,

[Thierry_Baudard]

Hello @Guillaume_Evrard,

Please refer to the TM3 documentation for connection of the PT100/PT1000 sensor to the TM3 module,

Then: 

In case of connection of the Panel Server to a local BMS or ESX PME or ESX PO or ESX EBO or any other modbus TCP/IP client:

Nothing special to do at Panel Server level because thePanel Server will act as a transparent gateway  

In case of connection to a PAS 800 used as a Local Energy server mode (PAS800) 

There is no native model in the Panel Server.. It means that you will have to create your own custom model in the CWP portal and import it in the Panel Server to be able to manage the measurements from TM3  

In case of connection to a SE cloud advisor (FE, AA, RA, EEH) 

1) Contact the advisor team to check if the advisor supports TM3 and custom model

2) There is no native model in the Panel Server.. It means that you will have to create your own custom model in the CWP portal and import it in the Panel Server to be able to manage the measurement  from TM3

[AndersDahlskog]

Hi 

As TM3 is a shown solution in BU ppt when in need of additional DI/AI I think it should be as native driver in PAS800, PAS800L (when used as a local energy server.)

BR/Anders

[AndersDahlskog]

If I understand the answer from @Thierry_Baudard the integration of TM3 as a native model on PAS800 model (Used a a local energy server) is planned in future firmware

Any time line for this firmware release ?

BR/Anders

[Guillaume_Evrard · Accepted solution]

hello @AndersDahlskog, seems that it has been removed from the roadmap, you will have to use a custom model,

[razel0]

I would recommend that bus coupler as well, but I'm not sure what their network architecture looks like or what specific M241 they're using. Since some of the M241s only have one ethernet port, while other versions have none, it's a little limiting for ethernet expansion, especially if you're using the ethernet port to communicate back to a central server like Ignition on the IT network; however, if you have an ethernet port and you're not using it, or are only using it locally on the machine network, then absolutely use the TM3BCEIP.

If you don't have an ethernet port, then you're kind of hosed; the TM3XTRA1 isn't ethernet based, and does have a 5 meter limit between transmitter and receiver, so you'd likely need to swap out the PLC for one of the units that have ethernet so you can go up to 100 meters or further with fiber converters or intermediate switches to boost the signal.

[Thierry_Baudard]

Hi Anders,

Guillaume has already answered but I confirm no native model are planned for TM3.