Schneider Weiser and home assistant

[lincon7]

Hi

Last time I asked, no answered, but shame to give up.

We are building new house and I am looking into ways to make it smart.

The most complete system for electricity control have found found is Schneider Weiser. They seems to have a complete range of dimmers, plugs sensors etc. Their units are either for in wall mounting or external use.

The brain in the system is the Gateway.

So, is there anyone who have experience of this system.

Is there any way to integrate the Gateway into HA

Their App is far below what can be done with HA, and I would like to get the best from them both.

[ashley_ashtek_c]

I suggest you post this on the cbus forums. There is active discussion on integrating HA with cbus there.

[Coppo]

Hi,
CBus did have an older product called Clipsal Wiser/ Wiser2   5200WHC2  home controller gateway, this product was released many years before the  SE Wiser.

SE global liked the "Wiser" name and copied across when rolling out our new residential wireless offer.  The 2 products are not the same product range.

SE Wiser with its Zigbee gateway  is a closed system, no Web API, no external connectivity, it uses its Wiser App.

C-Bus controllers 5500NAC2/ 5500AC2 and the Cbus system can talk to apple HA via a custom lua Script that enables MQTT connection    
  

       

 

[TomeLu]

HI @Coppo 

I'm curious how to use MQTT integration?
After all I don't see MQTT related settings on both controller manuals
Is it convenient for you to provide relevant information?

[LasseF]

Hi

im recently installed wiser KNX in my new house. I’m using HA with the KNX integration and it’s working like a charm. Much better user interface in HA. I can only recommend it 😃

[DarrenMullighan]

Hi All,

Just to clarify, it sounds like this thread is now talking about 3 different "Wiser" offerings.

With regards to the original question, there is no official HA integration for the Wiser offering.

Wiser for SpaceLogic C-Bus is a completely different offering which has no product relationship to Wiser offering. This offering has a number of third party developments done allowing it to integrate to HA.

Wiser for SpaceLogic KNX is similar to the Wiser for SpaceLogic C-Bus offering, but is developed separately. This offering I can not speak for in regards to its capabilities.

[Coppo]

This is for advanced users only,   we do not provide instruction on it here as the function is not natively supported.

I suggest you look into the Cbus forums (not an SE website), where various customers have posted their own workings   
https://www.cbusforums.com/threads/shac-mqtt-homeassistant-recall-previous-level.10868/

[TomBjerre]

I also have the Wiser Gateway for electrical switches and relays etc. (in Denmark sold as LK Wiser Gateway). I hear that the latest update should support Matter, and now that Home Assistant also starts to support Matter, I was hoping to use the Wiser Gateways Matter bridging to integrate the two - or will that not be possible?

[Coppo]

that product is not handled in C-Bus section sorry. 

You should discuss "Wiser 240Volt products" with your local sales person instead for Wiser gateway development.         

[Butscut]

Hey @Coppo, for the avoidance of any doubt, do you believe that there is a method available that would allow me to integrate my 5200WHC2 Wiser 2 home controller (first Gen, circa 2017) into Home Assistant?

[Coppo]

Its listed on public Github site

[Coppo]

none to my knowledge.
All older versions of CBUS WISER have had remote access into it blocked for cybersecurity reasons.
The 5200WHC2 will be killed off for future sales from DEC 2024 / Early 2025.

The move forward in 2025 will be 5500AC2 with V2.0 Firmware with new mobile app.

NAC/SHAC/AC2 can support HA integration using MQTT from the public Github site but you will need a Broker 

[Butscut]

Thanks for the response. I found out similar regarding the retirement of the WHC2 next year via the Schneider helpline, which was a little bit disappointing. However, in regard to your comment around remote access to my CBUS Wiser 2 unit, I have this set up and working faultlessly via https. I can open the app on my phone and control my lights from the other side of the world.  Given this, do you think it is possible that it could be integrated into HA or does the lack of LUA scripting on the unit render nothing more than a pipe dream?