TH110 and ZigBee USB dongle(REL52867)

[AkihiroY]

Hello community, 

 Our sales plan to propose TH110 and ZigBee USB dongle(REL52867) for the thermal monitoring of many SM6. I heard these SM6 are old.

So, they plan to add TH110 sensors for them and monitor using “ZigBee USB dongle(REL52867)”.

https://www.se.com/th/en/product/REL52867/zigbee-usb-dongle-evopact-hvx-easergy-th110-cords-up-to-20...

I have some questions.

Q1) ZigBee USB dongle(REL52867)
Does this available for our scenario in the above?

Q2) Number of TH110 sensors per USB Dongle.
In the above page, it says "ZigBee USB dongle, EvoPacT HVX, Easergy TH110, cords up to 20 sensors".
Is there any number of limitation of TH110 sensors monitored by single ZigBee USB dongle?

Q3) NFC tag and QR code

According to the user guide on the above URL, we need to prepare NFC tag or QR code. How should we prepare them in this case?

Q4) Required devices 
I think the following devices will be needed for this. If there is something needed to add, please advise.

• EMS59440(TH110)
• EMS59441: Ferromagnetic strip (62m)
• 1 Tool for ferro strip (ex: Phoenix contact 1212610)
• ZigBee USB dongle(REL52867)

[Guillaume_Evrard]

hello @AkihiroY 

Why proposing Dongle with Power Device rather than TH110 paired to PAS600 ?

If sensors were provided as part of Enable offer, you can unpair the sensor using the App to allow them to be paired with another gateway.

Installation of TH110 inside MV cubicles is handled by Power Services.

Thermal App does not exist anymore, you need to use power device with USB Zigbee dongle.

You need to configure everything in the APP this is on a cubicle basis (one by one). 

Config of each cubicle can be stored in a NFC TAG or pushed to ALM with possibility to get the config from ALM.

I strongly do not recommend to use power device and dongle for new installation.

Kind Regards

[AkihiroY]

Hello @Guillaume_Evrard 
Thank your reply. 
My intention for the questions to understand the required efforts to do that and check whether this proposal is realistic or not. 
Our sales watched the below. They think it looks very easy to install. It is about Esergy TH. I think you said this is not exist anymore!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZoQLxQnNk
They think  this can be low cost solution and does not require so much efforts to install PAS etc. 

I feel that this can be good if TH110 is pre-installed and QR code are ready when it is shipped.

On the other hand I wonder the case for adding TH110 because how much effort will be required to do implement them for old SM6 which is already running. (Who will prepare NFC tag or QR code? How the relationship with TH110-SM6 are managed?)

If my understanding correct, your answer is the below.

• This is technically possible.
• But not recommended because it takes many human efforts enable them.
  • NFCs are needed to be prepared locally.
  • Each user need to configure the add the devices and relationship with TH110 manually on his/her app(EcoStruxure Power Device).

 Is my understanding correct? 

[AkihiroY]

Hello @Guillaume_Evrard 

Now I installed "EcoStruxure Power Device" and am going through the GUI.

I'm thinking that "EcoStruxure Power Device" does not have a way to see the TH110 sensors. I could not find the corresponding menu on GUI to add TH110 even it is manually.

Updated:
 I found the button to add thermal setting on Android app.  (I could not find the button on iPhone app)

[Guillaume_Evrard]

Hello @AkihiroY 

You need to go to switchboard and create a thermal configuration ( MV cubicle, or LV column or ODT or Dry TX), you will have to enter instal mode (password is Thermal-1). You have to flash the QR code of each sensor in the App to define the location of the sensor. I strongly recommend to use PAS600 /PAS800 to provide local solution rather than the APP. Using PAS800 you can get full history. 

Kind Regards,