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VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

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VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/5/2014


hi All,

we are currently planning to get new UPS and along with this was determining best configuration with our virtual environment, Clustered/HA enabled. 3 Esxi 5.1 Hosts, 1 SAN and Domain Controller (DC-physical) and SAN.  i was wondering if you what the would you advise in order for us gracefully shutdown vm's, and hosts as well as one physical server (DC) in the event of extended power outage.

would this configuration works better than PCNS on vm? your comments and advise is very appreciated. thank you.

2145_esxi environment.png

also from PowerChute Network Shutdown: VMware User Guide, im a little confuse by this statement.

If the UPS is supplying power to a storage array then you should only select the

option to shut down VMware hosts.


Does it mean that this will not shutdown the physical host?



Physical Host - UPS Power Protection

In some setups, PowerChute needs to be able to monitor UPS's which are powering

equipment outside a VMware cluster. To do this you must select the Advanced UPS

configuration and add additional NMC IP addresses.

On the VMware Host Protection page, do not associate VMware hosts with these

UPS's.

The following additional options will then be displayed on the Physical Host - UPS Power

Protection page:

 Shut down VMware Hosts - trigger a VMware shutdown sequence on all hosts that

are protected by PowerChute.

 Shut down PowerChute machine - shut down the physical machine which has the

PowerChute installation after the VMware hosts and their VMs have been shut down.

Both options are enabled by default:

 If the UPS is supplying power to a physical machine both options should be selected.

If the UPS is supplying power to a storage array then you should only select the

option to shut down VMware hosts.


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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 3/4/2014


Sorry for the late response.

Now that i have my testing environment. I applied Low battery Delay to 15 minutes. it does shutdown the VM's gracefully but have three concerns:

1. It does not shutdown host01 where the Vcentre is running.  This host remains running until the outlet group turns off.  Is this something that can be done?

2. At the start up/Power restored, it does turn on the switches and storage but not the Physical server where the PCNS was installed as well as Host02.

3. Host01 one gets turn ON  but does not start VM's.

hope you can assist  or comment on this scenarios.

btw, i have SMART-UPS X 3000

thank you in advance.

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VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/5/2014


hi All,

we are currently planning to get new UPS and along with this was determining best configuration with our virtual environment, Clustered/HA enabled. 3 Esxi 5.1 Hosts, 1 SAN and Domain Controller (DC-physical) and SAN.  i was wondering if you what the would you advise in order for us gracefully shutdown vm's, and hosts as well as one physical server (DC) in the event of extended power outage.

would this configuration works better than PCNS on vm? your comments and advise is very appreciated. thank you.

2145_esxi environment.png

also from PowerChute Network Shutdown: VMware User Guide, im a little confuse by this statement.

If the UPS is supplying power to a storage array then you should only select the

option to shut down VMware hosts.


Does it mean that this will not shutdown the physical host?



Physical Host - UPS Power Protection

In some setups, PowerChute needs to be able to monitor UPS's which are powering

equipment outside a VMware cluster. To do this you must select the Advanced UPS

configuration and add additional NMC IP addresses.

On the VMware Host Protection page, do not associate VMware hosts with these

UPS's.

The following additional options will then be displayed on the Physical Host - UPS Power

Protection page:

 Shut down VMware Hosts - trigger a VMware shutdown sequence on all hosts that

are protected by PowerChute.

 Shut down PowerChute machine - shut down the physical machine which has the

PowerChute installation after the VMware hosts and their VMs have been shut down.

Both options are enabled by default:

 If the UPS is supplying power to a physical machine both options should be selected.

If the UPS is supplying power to a storage array then you should only select the

option to shut down VMware hosts.

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/7/2014


what configuration should i use (recommends) if i also want to be able to shutdown my physical server after esxi hosts (one cluste/ HA)? using just one UPS.

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/5/2014


thanks Bill.

please bare with me. when you say physical machine are you referring to SAN? 

with the above config, if i install PCNS on Windows Physical Server, would this also shutdown itself after shutting down esxi hosts cluster/HA?

thanks again

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This reply was originally posted by Bill on APC forums on 2/5/2014


Hi,


The configuration you attached the screenshot of is the correct one i.e. PCNS configured for Single UPS Configuration and vCenter Managed option. In that configuration you do not get the option to enable/disable shutting down the Physical machine running PCNS. This only applies in an Advanced cluster configuration where PCNS is installed on a physical Windows machine. When you use the configuration shown the physical machine running PCNS will get shut down


If you want the NAS shutdown you should write a script that PCNS will run that will command the NAS down.


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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/5/2014


as per dell, PV3220i doesnt have shutdown command as long as there was no i/o running at the time of power off. it will be fine.

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/7/2014




you mention above" In that configuration you do not get the option to enable/disable shutting down the Physical machine running PCNS." which machine would not get the option to enable/disable shutting down?


thanks



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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This reply was originally posted by Bill on APC forums on 2/7/2014


The Windows system that is running PCNS.

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/7/2014


Can i install PCNS on regular desktop then configured to shutdwon esxi hosts and one physical server?

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This reply was originally posted by Bill on APC forums on 2/10/2014


Hi,

You should review pages 4 and 5 of application note AN-180 http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/SJHN-92FLU8/SJHN-92FLU8_R0_EN.pdf

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 2/12/2014


That would work. thank you.

just final verification. should i follow this note regarding storage?

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This reply was originally posted by Bill on APC forums on 2/13/2014


Hi,

In your configuration you do not have to option to not power down the Windows system running PowerChute. Both the ESXi hosts and the Windows systems will be powered down. If you want the NAS shutdown you should write a script that PCNS will run that will command the NAS down.

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Re: VMware Shutdown - Single UPS Configuration

This was originally posted on APC forums on 3/4/2014


Sorry for the late response.

Now that i have my testing environment. I applied Low battery Delay to 15 minutes. it does shutdown the VM's gracefully but have three concerns:

1. It does not shutdown host01 where the Vcentre is running.  This host remains running until the outlet group turns off.  Is this something that can be done?

2. At the start up/Power restored, it does turn on the switches and storage but not the Physical server where the PCNS was installed as well as Host02.

3. Host01 one gets turn ON  but does not start VM's.

hope you can assist  or comment on this scenarios.

btw, i have SMART-UPS X 3000

thank you in advance.