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Quantum Modernization to M580

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Rifqi_Imanto
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Quantum Modernization to M580

Hi,

 

is it possible to to replace Quantum 140 CPU 43412U to M580 BME P58 1020 ? with all module replaced, and with minimal risk and modification.

 

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and what possibility issue will appear? 

  1. State Ram Addressing (Quantum Start from 1, and M580 start from 0) will make some Real/Float type data error. and how to fix it?
  2. Re-Addressing on SCADA (Citect SCADA) side? (User doesn't want to do this)
  3. anything else?

 

Thanks

@Nitin_Dhayagude 


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RoozeeR
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Re: Quantum Modernization to M580

Hi,

1 & 2. Re-adressing is not needed when  %SW138 - %SW141 are set with an initial value of 1. These Status words are available for M580 and give the STATE-RAM addresses an offset (of 1), making all STATERAM addresses identical as in your Quantum application. No need to change your SCADA application for this.

Unity M580 Application Converter (UMAC) is the tool for conversion of Quantum/Premium to M580 and will set these values automatically.

 

Also UMAC will add some code to make 32-bit variables (float, DINT), compatible with M580, without impacting your SCAD application.

 

3. Check connections on the CPU. 140CPU43412 has 2 Modbus ports and MB+, they do not show on this bitmap, but devices might be connected. For Modbus connection add a BMXNOM0200 (Check cables) and for MB+ add a MB+ Proxy module.

 

Conversion cabling for the IO modules is available, making the IO conversion more easy.

R.Roozee
Sr Solution Architect (SAE Master)

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RoozeeR
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Re: Quantum Modernization to M580

Hi,

1 & 2. Re-adressing is not needed when  %SW138 - %SW141 are set with an initial value of 1. These Status words are available for M580 and give the STATE-RAM addresses an offset (of 1), making all STATERAM addresses identical as in your Quantum application. No need to change your SCADA application for this.

Unity M580 Application Converter (UMAC) is the tool for conversion of Quantum/Premium to M580 and will set these values automatically.

 

Also UMAC will add some code to make 32-bit variables (float, DINT), compatible with M580, without impacting your SCAD application.

 

3. Check connections on the CPU. 140CPU43412 has 2 Modbus ports and MB+, they do not show on this bitmap, but devices might be connected. For Modbus connection add a BMXNOM0200 (Check cables) and for MB+ add a MB+ Proxy module.

 

Conversion cabling for the IO modules is available, making the IO conversion more easy.

R.Roozee
Sr Solution Architect (SAE Master)
Rifqi_Imanto
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Re: Quantum Modernization to M580

@RoozeeR 

 

ok nice..

for point 3. there is only IO, no communication bus to field. 

 

Thanks

PatrickV
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Re: Quantum Modernization to M580

Hello 

 

You need to have minimum the Level 4 M580 - BMEP584040 to support Quantum migration and integrate M580 rack with existing Quantum IO.

 

Also, Schneider has an internal tool to migrate existing Quantum program to M580 program without having to mess PLC addressing offsets and keeping SCADA addressing intact.  Please discuss with your local SE sales person 

Patrick Vaz
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