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Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

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sesa119903
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Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Hi Guys,

In our region, a lot of site require second stream recording. Currently, the way to do this is to enable second stream recording on the NSM Manager and on each camera individually via Endura Utilities.

Anyone aware of a Endura Utilities script that can bulk enable second stream recording on all cameras at once? I would select multiple cameras and enable second stream, however, this functionality doesn't work in Endura Utilities at the moment.

Thanks!


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Kly
Sisko
Sisko

Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Fahad, EnduraStor prune video and left I frames, while deleting P frames. Endura 1.5 really left 2 fps after EnduraStor process but in Endura 2.0 and Sarix cameras you can set the fps rate for EnduraStor.

GOP structure in camera web interface is a key. If you set each 4 frame as I frame in GOP field, you will get 6 fps after EnduraStor is activated.

So you can activate EnduraStor process after 1 or several hours and after that you will get 6 fps but first hour or two will be 25 fps.

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sesa210359
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Hi Angad,

I've never heard of any way to do what you described.  There're no plans to modify the Endura Utilities functionality.  How many cameras are you typically trying to configure in bulk?

sesa119903
Schneider Alumni (Retired)
Schneider Alumni (Retired)

Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Hi Alan,

Usual project size for our region is about 500 to 1000+ cameras. Most of the projects being quoted today are with second stream recording. Doing this once for each camera is not an issue usually. However, on almost all sites, configuration is never done correctly the first time around. Customer usually end up doing the configurations a couple times. Customers get annoyed when we tell them they need to repeat the entire process all over again to ensure proper configuration. Its a highly time consuming process on large camera sites. We currently have a 600+ cam site where they need to do this and have to go individually to do this. This is probably the third time around the customer is having to do this (due to other configuration issues).

sesa141980
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Schneider Alumni (Retired)
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

HI Alan,

Angad has a good point. My personal experience at supporting these sites just this month:

a) Sofitel Palm - 1140 Cameras - Requires bit rate adjustments and secondary stream recording enable:

Pri      640x480, 25IPS, 1300bps for viewing

Sec      640x480, 8.33IPS, 500kbps stream for recording

Took us 3 days to configure 96 cameras only. We have 900+ to go. Consultants who prescribe our hardware were not happy to see this and can affect future project deployments.

b) Nation Towers - 1130 Cameras - Requires bit rates to be adjusted across all cameras

c) Deerfields - 1100 Cameras - Requires bit rates to be adjusted across all cameras

d) Dolmen Mall - 300+ Cams - Requires secondary stream recording

Bulk config tools within Utilities or scripts to do these mass changes is  must. Field engineering time can be reduced if we had these tools available.

sesa137169
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Hi Fahad,

Did the script for changing the camera stream parameters that Sergij Klymanov recently sent you did the job? If yes - it can save a lot of time on your sites.

Best Regards,

sesa141980
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Oh yes, that script has worked for us saving a lot of time. Remaining issue now is to have the Enable Secondary Stream script be applicable to Bulk cameras updates. Currently it requires individual camera selection and then enabling it.

sesa137169
Schneider Alumni (Retired)
Schneider Alumni (Retired)

Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Hi Alan,

Attached is a script that changes stream 1 and stream 2 parameters (using Endura Utility). May be Pelco can create similar script for enabling the second stream recording?

Best Regards,

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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Hi, Plamen, ive made custom script just for Fahad requirements. It can not be used for any Endura system, because stream settings cannot be changed by user.

sesa137169
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Hi Sergij,

I beleive in Pelco they can modify the script/create a new script accordingly.

Kly
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Maybe, but they should include checks for proper settings, and this task is not so simple. All stream settings depend on each other and you should be very accurate while setting them in script, so it cannot be just promt windows like in "Camera name" script.

Kly
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Sorry for such question. But. What is the reason of usage of second stream recording? If you have 1000 cameras, so Archive video has higher importance then Live video but Second Stream has lower parameters then First one, so you`ll get archive with low quality.

If you need lower frame rate with the same resolution as live view, you can do that with Primary stream recording and Endura Store usage.

sesa141980
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Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Dubai Police has a standard requirement to record all cams at 6IPS and view all at 25IPS (all Resolution 640x480). The only way to get this done was to record secondary stream and use the primary for live + monitoring. EnduraStor was cutting it to 2IPS only.

Kly
Sisko
Sisko

Re: Bulk enable Second Stream Recording

Fahad, EnduraStor prune video and left I frames, while deleting P frames. Endura 1.5 really left 2 fps after EnduraStor process but in Endura 2.0 and Sarix cameras you can set the fps rate for EnduraStor.

GOP structure in camera web interface is a key. If you set each 4 frame as I frame in GOP field, you will get 6 fps after EnduraStor is activated.

So you can activate EnduraStor process after 1 or several hours and after that you will get 6 fps but first hour or two will be 25 fps.